Treo 650 and Verizon
I was going to upgrade my cell phone to a Treo 650 today, so I stopped in at the Verizon store. The sales guy said that Verison has crippled the Bluetooth on the 650 due to some security concerns so that it could only be used with bluetooth headsets. Is this true? Is anyone using a 650 with Verizon and if so can you sync over Bluetooth and/or use Sailing Clicker?
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You might also want to read up about problems people have had with verizon wireless sync . It is a web based app for your mail, calendar etc. It doesn't always play nice. Versamail came with the install disk and I should have just used that.
Aside from that I like the coverage with verizon and the 650 has been a great phone.
reg
There was/is a patch out there that re-enables DUN via bluetooth. I had it and it worked fine. Then I upgraded the firmware on the 650 and I've never installed the patch.
That said, I'm not 100% happy with the Treo. It has a nasty habit of not ringing - I suspect this is due to the e-mail push happening at the same time as the call - I use both the Verizon Wireless Sync and GoodLink to connect to my company and my customer's systems (I'm a government consultant amongst other things).
I have to reboot my Treo fairly regularly (at least twice a week), and every week or two it freezes or randomly reboots.
The Treo is also somewhat clunky in the way it handles things. The 700 might be better, but having used the Treo for a year now and having a Blackberry my customer provides as well, I would recommend going with a Blackberry - much smoother integration of push e-mail, and just better to use.
Originally posted by hxc04
Do not waste you money by purchasing the 650 when they have the 700. The 700 is far better than the 650 will ever be. The only reason to buy the 650 is if you want the palm OS to sync easier with the mac.
Care to elaborate? My reasons for preferring the 650 are
1) Palm vs Windows. I like the Palm OS. My limited experience with Windows CE has been pretty negative.
2) Price. The 650 is $200 cheaper.
Before I buy, I am curious why you think that the 700 is so much better. My main intended uses are:
Phone (of course)
Organizer (calendar, contacts, to do...)
and to a lesser extent:
Listen to podcasts
Photo album
My main criteria are:
Ease of use
Ease of syncing with Mac
Do you think the 700 would really be a better deal for me?
Originally posted by kiwi-in-dc
The Treo is also somewhat clunky in the way it handles things. The 700 might be better, but having used the Treo for a year now and having a Blackberry my customer provides as well, I would recommend going with a Blackberry - much smoother integration of push e-mail, and just better to use.
Thanks for the advice. What do you find clunky about the 650? I am not planning on using it for email, so I haven't concidered the Blackberry.
The e-mail sync from Verizon is slow - lots of time used to receive mail, which means that calls frequently go to voicemail. Made doubly bad because I'm using GoodLink as well.
Many Palm apps don't do too well with the keyboard - some just don't quite work right.
The phone integration to the Palm apps is less than optimal - addresses for instance. GoodLink is much better at this, but not quite as good.
All the available web browsers are terrible. They're either text only, or full graphics whch makes them almost unusable - I can use it in a pinch, but even simple things can be a pain - e.g. using yahoo maps or mapquest just doesn't work - the maps are too small to read with no way of enlarging them.
The BB is much better on all these counts, and I suspect the 700 would score better though syncing with a Mac is more of a pain.
Originally posted by JBL
Thanks for the advice. What do you find clunky about the 650? I am not planning on using it for email, so I haven't concidered the Blackberry.
Also, hxc04 said that you can't edit word and powerpoint files on the 650... he's totally wrong again. The 650 comes with Documents to Go software with it that actually has more power to CREATE and EDIT new/existing Word, Excel and Powerpoint files than the built in function microsoft puts into the mobile windows platform. I've personally used both and I always somehow find myself back with my Treo. I also have used a few different Blackberry devices and find them slower, more problematic and less compatible with about everthing else. Not to mention the stupid scroll wheel. I've had more issues with my clients and their blackberry's than any other device. But I guess you can always get new one's if you get the warranty!
Originally posted by JBL
Care to elaborate? My reasons for preferring the 650 are
1) Palm vs Windows. I like the Palm OS. My limited experience with Windows CE has been pretty negative.
2) Price. The 650 is $200 cheaper.
Before I buy, I am curious why you think that the 700 is so much better. My main intended uses are:
Phone (of course)
Organizer (calendar, contacts, to do...)
and to a lesser extent:
Listen to podcasts
Photo album
My main criteria are:
Ease of use
Ease of syncing with Mac
Do you think the 700 would really be a better deal for me?
A friend of mine just got a Treo 650 and I've never seen so many reboots and random crashing in a Palm-type device. I don't see how a business can depend on this thing. I was going to get one but now, I'm looking at a Treo 700 or a Blackberry.
My two cents.
Stable and syncs well with macs and PCs.
Mike Byrne