Computer for College

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in Current Mac Hardware edited January 2014
I'm heading off to college this fall and I'm trying to decide whether to bring a portable or desktop computer. I do a lot of digital Video work, so speed and hard drive space is important to me. I'm leaning towards a new tower, because of the much better price/perfomance ratio it has compared to a TiBook. Anyone who has experience, How useful is it to have a portable on campus? Right now the main advantage I see is that I would be able easily bring a Tibook home on vacations. Thanks for any advice
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  • Reply 1 of 28
    relicrelic Posts: 4,735member
    It really depends on what you want to spend. If money isn't an object I would get the Ti 800mhz. Rumors have it that a new 17in imac with a 933mhz processor will debut at MWNY, this would defiantly be an interesting option. Stay away from the ibooks, to slow for anything related to video. I started college with a desktop but changed to a laptop by the end of my first semester. The benefits over a desktop are great, especially for simply locking it up during dorm parties. <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> You might also want to look into some of the deals IBM has right now. You can pick up a T23 Thinkpad for about 1800 bucks.
  • Reply 2 of 28
    brianmacosbrianmacos Posts: 548member
    I am a second year college student I orginally bought a 1ghz XP laptop last year and switched to iBook for this year. Laptops are a lot nicer if you want to be able to have your computer with you around your classes and stuff. I am in College for computer networking and stuff so I like to have my system with me as much as possible. But if you are going to be doing video editing the Powermac would be a good option and so would the Powerbook but the price is up there. The iMac would probably work descent for you. But I wouldn't know I don't do any thing with video editing my mainly work with Web Page Development, and graphic design, along with my digital photos.



    One other thing if you buy a laptop the Apple lineup has way better battery life. If you buy a PC Laptop the best battery life you will probably see is 2 1/2 hours they claim 3 but I don't think I ever got that out of mine and I had the p3-M. With my iBook I can usually get over 4 1/2 hours, still trying to get that 6 that they claim but haven't seen it.



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  • Reply 3 of 28
    splinemodelsplinemodel Posts: 7,311member
    We get a few of these threads every year around this time.



    You're not going to have enough room for a tower as your main computer. The monitor and keyboard take up a lot of space. Most freshman rooms also are very small.



    Next, why do you do digital video work? If you are going to be an arts student, you can easily use the university's computers for that.



    Lastly, a TiBook with an external Firewire drive can do quite a good job at Digital video. add a 2nd 15" LCD panel and you're in great shape.
  • Reply 4 of 28
    culo77culo77 Posts: 2member
    Dude get a laptop for so many reasons!!!!!!



    1. You can sit outside your dorm or in the Quad (all colleges have them)on a nice day and hot chicks will walk up to you and ask about your cool looking computer (kick ass ice breaker), than all you have to do then is shut up let her talk (women love to talk) <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> and you got yourself you first college booty <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> (works the same way for girls too, just let the guy brag)



    2. Do you really want to be stuck in a cramped dorm room doing you work?????? Your dorm buddy maybe alittle odd or loud or just farts like no tomarrow :confused: so just take your TiBook or iBook or IBM :eek: down to the main floor (it usually has realy soft chairs) or go outside and watch the beautiful girls.....I miss college ...well the parts i remember!!!



    3. i can go on and on and on but it would just bring me back to women agian so i will spare you this time
  • Reply 5 of 28
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    If you're actually interested in doing work with the thing, the TiBook does have the distinct advantage of letting you work on location. You can shoot a bunch of takes, import them into FCP right there, and see if any of them worked.



    The PowerMac is more powerful, of course, but it's also bulkier, and forces you to work wherever you set it up.
  • Reply 6 of 28
    nebagakidnebagakid Posts: 2,692member
    I think it would be cool if you would get a TiBook, think about it, how are you going to bring home your computer over Kristmas/Thanksgifting/Hannukah/Kwanza/ April Fools Day/Mother is a Whore day/ and so on and so forth



    Who the heck travels with a desktop? Unless they have a trick out airport system and they have wired their car to be the ultimate PortablePowerMac./



    Now, that would be cool...



    oh yeah, if you want power, go with the,.....PowerBook!

    If you only want the internet...get the .....iBook! <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> <img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" />
  • Reply 7 of 28
    serranoserrano Posts: 1,806member
    12" iBook
  • Reply 8 of 28
    I took a tower with me freshman year, two years ago and it was miserable! The big problem, however, was I had a 17" CRT- the CRT and my keyboard took up my entire desk space and the tower was encroaching on my leg room. I'm selling that tower this summer and getting a laptop.



    My advice is definitely get a laptop, it's a lot easier to transport to and from school and it's a real space saver!
  • Reply 9 of 28




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  • Reply 10 of 28
    chychchych Posts: 860member
    If you're thinking of working with a laptop outside in the bright sun, just remember, it is damn near impossible to see that lcd screen with the sun behind you



    I'm aiming for a tower instead (hopefully the midline dual 1.2ghz if it will exist) with a 17" lcd screen (two of them maybe), and possibly a laptop later (G4 iBook maybe?) with airport; we have full campus wireless internet



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  • Reply 11 of 28
    g4dudeg4dude Posts: 1,016member
    Get a PowerBook, a Cinema Display, some 5.1 speakers, an X-Box, and a mini fridge and you will be set dude!



    Note: The above suggestion is what I plan on doing when I go off to college. Wow, only one more year, time sure flies.



    Oh ya, by the way; where are you going to be goin' to college?



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  • Reply 12 of 28
    bogiebogie Posts: 407member
    I always pitch the iBook as the perfect student portable but right now ... with it just waiting for a G4 while everything else uses one ... its hard.



    Since you are looking to focus on video make sure you have at least 512MB if not a GB of RAM and a large hard drive, you can go through 20-30GB pretty damn fast depending on how big of projects you do. Right now a 733 is like $1250 and its a heck of a deal so I would look at that.



    I bought my first PowerBook [a used 5300c] to use as a secondary Mac my sophomore year of college, it was alright. Then I moved to a 1400c [used but maxed out on everything with a G3 in it] my Jr. year. That was terrific but my main Mac remained a G3 400 because it had the punch I wanted for games and general work. My Sr. year I traded in several older PowerBooks [kept the 1400 around] and bought a 400MHz G3 Pismo. It rules and it took over as my main Mac due to the flexibility of AirPort and being mobile, with Mac OS X it was easy to do remote work so I didn't worry about my 10GB hard drive limitation in the Pismo [still wish I had a larger drive].



    I had never thought a portable would be my main Mac but it has been for a long time. I would prefer a fast G4 because I want a faster graphics subsystem but if you have the money a highend G4 PowerBook would be a very nice system.



    For me it comes down to budget, if your college does not have a wireless network or ethernet connections through out the buildings and if you are not the guy who would take his PowerBook to his classes [I was that guy] then a PowerBook would be a low priority.



    If you are the guy who wants hardcore computing power it is always better to get a desktop, no matter how much you are willing to spend you get better performance for the money and more upgradability.



    So, figure out what type of flexibility you need and go from there.
  • Reply 13 of 28
    It's not impossible to do video editing with an iBook, but if you have the money a TiBook is obviously much better for video. Still, get a laptop or an iMac.



    If you aren't going to school in your own town, something people don't talk about much that's very important about a G4 tower is how much is weighs. According to the Apple web site it's only 31 pounds, but I've had a hell of a time hauling that thing around the times that I've had to. Add a monitor to that, even the 11 lb 15" Apple Studio LCD and you're talking about 42 lb. before even getting into the rest of the things you need to live at school. If you already have a CRT, and most people do, that's more like 30 to 40 lb. With your computer accessories, you're going to have trouble fitting your clothes in with everything else unless you're taking an SUV to a local school.



    On the other hand, an iBook is 5.9 lb. It makes a huge difference. You might not think so now. That's because you haven't tried to pack after finals are done. Before finals, you're busy studying. Then, after they're done, you have only a few days, or hours if your final (sometimes a double final ) is unluckily on the last day in dorm. During that short time you have to pack all your clothes, your 80 lb. of textbooks you didn't have when you moved in, your notes, your writing utensils and such, all the assorted junk you picked up during the year, clean the room for deposit inspection, bring your rental fridge to the collection spot if you've rented a fridge, return your keys, possibly arrange to get to the airport, put most of your packed stuff into storage or mail it home or put in your parents or friend's car depending on the situation (possibly up or down several flights of stairs), and all of this while exhausted from finals.



    This is everything other than your electronic equipment. So think about how much you'll also have to pack in the way of USB cables, FireWire cables, drives, CDs, games controllers, batteries, speakers and audio cables, camera and camera accessories (particularly your tripod), power cables and such. A tower and screen aren't so attractive on top of all that.



    You'll definitely have much more on the way home than on the way out.



    I've done the whole routine many times with a tower and with a laptop, and I'm telling you now I'd never go to school with a tower again, even if the tower is somewhat faster than the laptop. The tower saves you a few hours here, a few there during the normal course of studies, not during that critical last two weeks when you need time most. And as somebody said, for intense work you can always use the lab computers.



    Of course, if you're a very organized person capable of keeping everything so carefully ordered that your cables are practically a cricuit board taped to the wall, packing your clothes is taking two laundry detergent commercial style stacks and dropping them in a suitcase, and you can study and prepare to leave at the same time, then by all means, get a tower.
  • Reply 14 of 28
    cyko95cyko95 Posts: 391member
    [quote]Originally posted by AllenChristopher:

    <strong>It's not impossible to do video editing with an iBook, but if you have the money a TiBook is obviously much better for video...</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I agree. I use Final Cut Pro and iMovie on my iBook all the time, and I would hardly call it "too slow for video." If your main focuses are price and HD space. Go with:



    iBook 700 Combo with either a 30 or 40 GB Hard Drive

    Up it to 640MB RAM at 18004Memory.com (not Apple)

    External Firewire Hard Drive (Whatever size you can afforrd)

    Final Cut Pro (Students only pay $250 instead of $1000)
  • Reply 15 of 28
    lucaluca Posts: 3,833member
    I'm also going into college this fall, and I've never been sure of what would be a good computer to bring. First it was a 700 MHz iBook, then a used TiBook, then an iMac, then a used PowerMac, now I'm not sure again. I mean, I still have about two months to decide (though I'm planning on getting the computer in about a month), but I may as well use the opportunity to ask some questions.



    I am not going to be doing serious graphics or video work. Most of what I do on my computer is surf the internet and organize/rip/transfer music in iTunes (and I have an iPod). My computer is barely adequate, with support for my FireWire card and an external hard drive for my music, but it would be nice to have faster iTunes visuals, DVD movies, and enough hard drive space for my tunes. I've been using old machines for a while now, with my current machine being a four year old PowerBook G3 and my previous one being an 8100. OS X is acceptable but slow on my computer. I want a computer that will be Snappy? in X. I don't care too much about games. I rarely play them and the ones I do have run fairly well on my old computer.
  • Reply 16 of 28
    filfil Posts: 16member
    I graduated from college in May, and I would not have survived without a portable computer. I had a PB 1400 for my first 2 and a half years, and a Ti for the remaining year and a half.



    To agree with what has already been said, space is a major issue. Not to mention the hassle of moving in and out with a tower and large screen. Bigger hassle than you may imagine.



    But for me, the ability to bring my Powerbook and my work everwhere I went was invaluable. It was impossible for me to get much work done in my dorm. I would have gone mad if all my work was trapped in a desktop that I could not move. Being able to take all my papers and projects to the library, around campus, home for a long weekend made me much more productive.
  • Reply 17 of 28
    macasaurusmacasaurus Posts: 243member
    laptop for sure. Just came out of college and even though my roommate was one of my best friends, he can get noisy and distracting with his very addictive PC games. Anyway, yeah, go with the PB especially if you are doing video editing.
  • Reply 18 of 28
    paulpaul Posts: 5,278member
    [quote]Originally posted by Luca Rescigno:

    <strong>I'm also going into college this fall, and I've never been sure of what would be a good computer to bring. First it was a 700 MHz iBook, then a used TiBook, then an iMac, then a used PowerMac, now I'm not sure again. I mean, I still have about two months to decide (though I'm planning on getting the computer in about a month), but I may as well use the opportunity to ask some questions.



    I am not going to be doing serious graphics or video work. Most of what I do on my computer is surf the internet and organize/rip/transfer music in iTunes (and I have an iPod). My computer is barely adequate, with support for my FireWire card and an external hard drive for my music, but it would be nice to have faster iTunes visuals, DVD movies, and enough hard drive space for my tunes. I've been using old machines for a while now, with my current machine being a four year old PowerBook G3 and my previous one being an 8100. OS X is acceptable but slow on my computer. I want a computer that will be Snappy? in X. I don't care too much about games. I rarely play them and the ones I do have run fairly well on my old computer.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Ditto...



    I'm going to go with a TiBook and a huge ext. hard drive... unless of course something really good comes out of MWNY.... we'll see
  • Reply 19 of 28
    torifiletorifile Posts: 4,024member
    There's no question you should get a laptop. It shouldn't even be a competition. You will regret having a big-ass tower/monitor in your room, especially when you want to get out. And now lots of campuses have wireless networks, so you can get on the net while working anywhere. Laptops are the best thing you could get (next to beer) when you're in college.
  • Reply 20 of 28
    texmactexmac Posts: 27member
    Like some fellow posters, I'll as well be heading off to college -- in almost a month (Aug. 26). I've always been "behind the pack" as far as owning the latest Apple merchandise (i.e., when getting a new computer in 10th grade, I settled for a highly discounted 350 G3 instead of G4 or powerbook), and now after reading all the responses here, I'm wondering if hunting on eBay for a moderately used TiBook wouldn't be a bad idea. I currently own, as said, a B&W G3 350 tower and newer (white) iBook 500 CD-ROM. I have an NEC 15" LCD screen coming in Thursday (also off eBay), and per its acceptability vs. my E200 Sony 17" CRT, it's probably going to the dorm for the sake of space-saving. Now I wonder about trying to sell the iBook, G3 and monitor for cash towards a TiBook. --- Speaking on computers at college, though -- do any of you know about the details regarding computers' designation as "required supplies" for scholarship purposes? I finally found out (from Nat'l merit letter) recently that scholarship money diverted anywhere outside tuition & fees, books, and required supplies is considered taxable income. If a computer were considered as such, which *I* think it is, that would be great!
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