Maybe you are both right...announced in april, ships in May...if one source is the factory, they may be saying May, that would e the day they leave the dock...if it is an Apple PR/promotions/webdesign/marketing material person, they may be looking at the April announcement date (their deadline), the way Apple works, one dept may not know what the other is doing.
when do education markets make their decision for the fall?? they have to be able to "see" what they are investing in. that's when you'll get an announcment.
when do education markets make their decision for the fall?? they have to be able to "see" what they are investing in. that's when you'll get an announcment.
odds are the desision is already made for this fall, there is a lot involved, teachers have to go for it, the curiculum needs to match up, licence pricing for software has to be hammered out, custom configurations need to be determined (audio i/o for the music department, Quadro graphics cards for the CAD and 3d annimation classes and so on) and the equipment has to be ordered right about now, take delivery in ~may, set them up and over summer, deploy images and test everything. A large scale deployment of a new platform or mehod is not something that you jump into.
so they lost out to the education market??, or did the edu get a preview, or maybe they assumed a certain level of features??? the software could have been previewed . but why would apple wait and exclude a market they really really want. or did they give them steep discounts on the g4 model??? with all the hype for other products why mess up this deployment
so they lost out to the education market??, or did the edu get a preview, or maybe they assumed a certain level of features??? the software could have been previewed . but why would apple wait and exclude a market they really really want. or did they give them steep discounts on the g4 model??? with all the hype for other products why mess up this deployment
it doesnt matter, Untill you can run ye ole' office and Adobe apps nativly (and in all too many sad cases, integrate with ActivDirectory), then the edu market isnt gonna look at intel OSX regaurdless of hardware. Schools will let others take the risk of early adoption, and even when fat bins do ship, they will (or should) wait for a x.1 release for patchs before "switching".
Some strange bug effecting a few hundred thousand computer pros or semi pros (who are adults) is one thing, can you imagine the hell of answering to a bunch of 12 year olds about why something doesnt work "just right"? they do not understand the "early adopters take the arrows" philosiphy, they dont care, they shouldnt have to, they want it to just work, which it should.
Honestly April 11 seems to be the best time for Apple to intro those Macbooks. Think about it. Their homepage hasn't been updated in over a month. A new product or software update is certainly WAY overdue.
I like the five weeks rule. 5 Tuesdays seems to be the longest Apple goes with the same homepage. Mighty Mouse in August was up there for exactly five weeks and in my time keeping track of Apple, that seemed to be pretty long.
They have done it without a special event before tho...
I think they wouldn't do the PowerMac or significantly new iPod without a special event. PowerMac because thats the product with the most innovation, and iPod because of the huge marketshare it holds for apple.
They have done it without a special event before tho...
Yeah, if it's an update...this would be a major change (name of product, enclosure of product, Intel, etc). You don't think Apple will pass on showing off that new magnetic latching system to the press?
They have done it without a special event before tho...
Another reason why they will have an event is because they help an event for the mini and iPod HiFi, so it only makes sense to introduce the new consumer line [maybe 12"/17" MBP too] with an event. Remember, the iBook is going to be the most drastically redesigned laptop from apple in a looooonnng time.
There is no sure way to predict if we'll see a special event or not. Apple has done silent updates, ultra-silent updates (the never-acknowledged speed-bump of the G4 minis) and high-key events for disappointing product updates (the intel minis). They seem to decide on gut-feeling alone if a product update is interesting enough to warrant a press release, a special event or nothing at all.
However, April seems too early to me. I believe we won't see a MacBook without prior CPU upgrades/speed bumps/price reductions by intel.
so they lost out to the education market??, or did the edu get a preview, or maybe they assumed a certain level of features??? the software could have been previewed . but why would apple wait and exclude a market they really really want. or did they give them steep discounts on the g4 model??? with all the hype for other products why mess up this deployment
There are those who speculate that Maine's EDU buyers are already in on these new MacBooks with their recent purchase for the fall. Something like 32,000 "portables." I could see Apple swearing these folks to secrecy if they needed to make big sales way in advance of the retail launch.
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Originally posted by BeigeUser
ThinkSecret used to have a near-perfect track record. But they seemed to have lost their sources.
Mine is still perfect and I say in April.
Originally posted by NOFEER
when do education markets make their decision for the fall?? they have to be able to "see" what they are investing in. that's when you'll get an announcment.
odds are the desision is already made for this fall, there is a lot involved, teachers have to go for it, the curiculum needs to match up, licence pricing for software has to be hammered out, custom configurations need to be determined (audio i/o for the music department, Quadro graphics cards for the CAD and 3d annimation classes and so on) and the equipment has to be ordered right about now, take delivery in ~may, set them up and over summer, deploy images and test everything. A large scale deployment of a new platform or mehod is not something that you jump into.
Originally posted by NOFEER
so they lost out to the education market??, or did the edu get a preview, or maybe they assumed a certain level of features??? the software could have been previewed . but why would apple wait and exclude a market they really really want. or did they give them steep discounts on the g4 model??? with all the hype for other products why mess up this deployment
it doesnt matter, Untill you can run ye ole' office and Adobe apps nativly (and in all too many sad cases, integrate with ActivDirectory), then the edu market isnt gonna look at intel OSX regaurdless of hardware. Schools will let others take the risk of early adoption, and even when fat bins do ship, they will (or should) wait for a x.1 release for patchs before "switching".
Some strange bug effecting a few hundred thousand computer pros or semi pros (who are adults) is one thing, can you imagine the hell of answering to a bunch of 12 year olds about why something doesnt work "just right"? they do not understand the "early adopters take the arrows" philosiphy, they dont care, they shouldnt have to, they want it to just work, which it should.
Originally posted by Anders
Mine is still perfect and I say in April.
Cool...so we might see updates either on the 18th or 25th April. Next Tuesday is probaly too soon?
I like the five weeks rule. 5 Tuesdays seems to be the longest Apple goes with the same homepage. Mighty Mouse in August was up there for exactly five weeks and in my time keeping track of Apple, that seemed to be pretty long.
I think they wouldn't do the PowerMac or significantly new iPod without a special event. PowerMac because thats the product with the most innovation, and iPod because of the huge marketshare it holds for apple.
Originally posted by icfireball
They have done it without a special event before tho...
Yeah, if it's an update...this would be a major change (name of product, enclosure of product, Intel, etc). You don't think Apple will pass on showing off that new magnetic latching system to the press?
They have done it without a special event before tho...
Another reason why they will have an event is because they help an event for the mini and iPod HiFi, so it only makes sense to introduce the new consumer line [maybe 12"/17" MBP too] with an event. Remember, the iBook is going to be the most drastically redesigned laptop from apple in a looooonnng time.
- Noah
However, April seems too early to me. I believe we won't see a MacBook without prior CPU upgrades/speed bumps/price reductions by intel.
Originally posted by NOFEER
so they lost out to the education market??, or did the edu get a preview, or maybe they assumed a certain level of features??? the software could have been previewed . but why would apple wait and exclude a market they really really want. or did they give them steep discounts on the g4 model??? with all the hype for other products why mess up this deployment
There are those who speculate that Maine's EDU buyers are already in on these new MacBooks with their recent purchase for the fall. Something like 32,000 "portables." I could see Apple swearing these folks to secrecy if they needed to make big sales way in advance of the retail launch.