Windows IPOD, Will it work on Mac?

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in Current Mac Hardware edited January 2014
Ok with the release of the iPod for Windows we may get more peeps on the Mac. However what is not clear to me is will the Windows iPod work with the mac?



Lets think about this for a second... If a windows user buys an iPod and then wants to switch to the Mac he will be pretty pissed if it does not work. I heard there was some software that would allow you to use the iPods on windows before the windows ones came out. If that is true then it most just be a software issue with MP3 players.



You would think it's just the software or a firmware update that would allow you to convert ipod for windows to mac. Let's hope Apple has planed for this.



After all Steve said some thing like what if Windows users could see how good it could be with an iPod.

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 17
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    It'll probably work just fine if your reformat the drive. I'm not sure if there are any major issues keeping the Windows iPod formatted with FAT32 while using it with a Mac. It's not supported by Apple.



    Apple will probably release a simple conversion app that will reformat the iPod.
  • Reply 2 of 17
    icarusicarus Posts: 31member
    The iPod has been working on the PC for a while with software that Apple didnt make money off of. I think that the Windows iPod is identical to the mac one with the exception of their special MusicMatch Jukebox. If I'm wrong I will roast in a firey pit of flames but I do remember that silly Simi Das Woman on TechTV talking about this a while back.
  • Reply 3 of 17
    jaydogjaydog Posts: 63member
    Ok all if you were not watching the mwny keynote there is manly only 1 change. pc's use the 4 pin firewire cable. macs use the 6 pin firewire cables so in theary change the fw cable and you can use it on ether.
  • Reply 4 of 17
    klinuxklinux Posts: 453member
    No no, most PC's have the regular 6 pin firewire port (like my desktop Sony). Most PC laptops (idiot designers) use the 4 pin firewire port.



    I wsa hoping there would be a solution where the iPod can sync or be read by both OS X and Win XP. Is there? I think OS X can read an FAT32 paritioned HD but I don't think WinXP and read an HSF disk?
  • Reply 5 of 17
    splinemodelsplinemodel Posts: 7,311member
    [quote]Originally posted by klinux:

    <strong>No no, most PC's have the regular 6 pin firewire port (like my desktop Sony). Most PC laptops (idiot designers) use the 4 pin firewire port.



    I wsa hoping there would be a solution where the iPod can sync or be read by both OS X and Win XP. Is there? I think OS X can read an FAT32 paritioned HD but I don't think WinXP and read an HSF disk?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Smart designers.



    PC laptops have crapola battery life, and PC's in general are built from shelf parts made by various taiwanese vendors or Intel. Wiring power into the extra two pins (they are DC voltage) is extra work, and since the only real marketing point one PC has against another is price, this compromise had to be made.



    What PC laptops aside from Sonys have firewire anyway?
  • Reply 6 of 17
    chweave1chweave1 Posts: 164member
    Mine.



    I have a Compaq Presario Laptop, and it has the four pin firewire port. I hate the four pin port, but its better than none at all.



    I just ordered my pc iPod tonight, and I honestly don't think there could be any reason why the pc iPod wouldn't work on a mac(with or without a reformat... i don't know).



    I think that the music match software might have some sort of conversion programming to allow it to possibly act as a bridge between a PC and an HFS-formatted iPod. Wouldn't that be easier (and better in terms of the switch campaign) for Apple?
  • Reply 7 of 17
    I dodn't realize that there were two versions of the Firewire port.



    I had heard that Sony's version of Firewire (iLink) has fewer pins because it doesn't allow for power transferred. I hope this is not the case with the 4-pin PC Firewire ports. Wouldn't that prohibit the iPod from being charged while connected to the PC?
  • Reply 8 of 17
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    [quote]Originally posted by Michael Grey:

    <strong>Wouldn't that prohibit the iPod from being charged while connected to the PC?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    i.Link and 4-pin FireWire are not powered. PC users with these ports have to charge their iPod with the AC adapter.
  • Reply 9 of 17
    Yes, but only after an Eastern Orthodox exorcism of the foul spirit of Windows?
  • Reply 10 of 17
    yevgenyyevgeny Posts: 1,148member
    [quote]Originally posted by Splinemodel:

    <strong>

    What PC laptops aside from Sonys have firewire anyway?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Dell's have them as well. Don't know if they are on all models.
  • Reply 11 of 17
    [quote]Originally posted by Elderloc:

    <strong>Ok with the release of the iPod for Windows we may get more peeps on the Mac. However what is not clear to me is will the Windows iPod work with the mac?



    Lets think about this for a second... If a windows user buys an iPod and then wants to switch to the Mac he will be pretty pissed if it does not work. I heard there was some software that would allow you to use the iPods on windows before the windows ones came out. If that is true then it most just be a software issue with MP3 players.



    You would think it's just the software or a firmware update that would allow you to convert ipod for windows to mac. Let's hope Apple has planed for this.



    After all Steve said some thing like what if Windows users could see how good it could be with an iPod. </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Might anyone know how difficult it is to reformat an iPod? I ordered the 20 GB Windows formatted version yesterday (comes with the fire-wire adaptor) and had planned on reformatting it to HFS plus so that I could use it with both my Mac and my PC. Does anyone know if this will work? I?m also curious as to whether or not I can hen copy files off of the iPod on my PC then. Anyhow? Just curious? <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
  • Reply 12 of 17
    chweave1chweave1 Posts: 164member
    Have they come out and said that the Windows ipod is necessarily already formatted in NTFS? I honestly doubt Apple would do this if they really view this as a way of ultimately luring more pc users to the mac platform.
  • Reply 13 of 17
    johnhenryjohnhenry Posts: 152member
    Considering only NT, 2000 and WinXP can read NTFS formatted drives, that seems unlikely...

    Did you mean Fat32?
  • Reply 14 of 17
    alcimedesalcimedes Posts: 5,486member
    it would be the best of both worlds if the PC iPod was connected to the PC's via software and was still formatted in HFS.



    i'd love to be able to transfer files nicely between my PC and Macs.
  • Reply 15 of 17
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    The FAQ says the Windows iPod is FAT32 formatted.
  • Reply 16 of 17
    klinuxklinux Posts: 453member
    Yeah, Splinemodel, it is apparently you are neither smart nor a designer.



    First, not all PC laptops have poor battery life. My VAIO PCG-SR33 gets 4-5 hours easy. And there are those PC laptops that are meant to be desktop replacements with limited mobility - they weigh 8-10 lbs and have poor battery but that is exactly what they are designed for i.e. using desktop chips and not mobile chips.



    Regaridng the comment about off the shelf parts - where do you think Apple gets its parts from? Yes, from Taiwan. Yes, they use the same memory, and many other parts as PCs. Intel, for your information, does not make its own hardware except for chips.



    [quote]Wiring power into the extra two pins (they are DC voltage) is extra work, and since the only real marketing point one PC has against another is price, this compromise had to be made.<hr></blockquote> There are so many fallacies and inane points in this statement it does not even merit a response!
  • Reply 17 of 17
    sebseb Posts: 676member
    Here's another interesting tidbit...



    The iPod warranty has quietly been upped to a one year limited warranty from the previous 90 day warranty.



    It's on the iPod website. You can find it easily on the FAQ.
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