How the **** could you sell that machine for that price?! <img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" /> :eek: <img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" /> <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
How the **** could you sell that machine for that price?! <img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" /> :eek: <img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" /> <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Long story. It was a Dual GHz, GB of Ram and a GeForce3.
I purchased my dual 1 GHz tower this morning from the online Apple store. One of the reasons I wanted the dual 1 Ghz was because they're shipping in 1-3 days... well I found out that only applies if you order a preconfigured one. I did mine BTO and changed the default ATi 9000 to a GeForce 4 Ti card. Now the ship date says 2-3 weeks.
I'm not really mad, but I am a little disappointed. I mean adding 2.5 weeks to the ship date to swap video cards, which due to the fabulous design of the towers, is at most a 1 minute job, including the screwing and unscrewing of the card? Eh... little peeved about that. All I can think of is that Apple is so backed up with BTO orders that it really is going to take that long to get to mine...
And I don't even believe that. But it's still cheaper than getting the Mac from a retail store and buying the GeForce 4 Ti kit seperately.
Darren Smith listed the VeloCD CDRW as an add-on drive. I use one now in my PC, but I cant find anything saying it will be compatible with the powermac...anyone know if it will work with iTunes? I see nothing about apple on the tdk website and nothing in the lists of compatible hardware at apples website. The super drive is super slow!
I'm guessing that the only hold-up for the BTO G4's is the video cards. I tried configuring a tower with a different video card and it changed the time to ship to "7-10 days"...I then tried replacing the combo drive with a SuperDrive and it stayed at "3-5 days". Seems like Apple underestimated the demand for the better video cards(Radeon, GF4 Ti). I hope this doesn't apply to mine since I ordered the day they came out but I wouldn't be surprised. Oh well, good things come to those who wait, I suppose.(At least they better!!)
JohnHenry: Yeah, it will work fine. But if I were you, instead of getting one of those BTO from Apple, just order a Lite-On 48x20x40x from somewhere online. I'm sure that would be a lot cheaper, and Lite-On make great burners (bought one for my G3).
Man, this a dilemna. I was planning on seeing what happens with the IBM PowerPC 64-bit chip and keep my computer for a bit longer, but I could probably still do that.
I really need those drive bays. I want a fast burner in addition to DVD or DVD-RW, plus I want something for my audio breakout box. I could live with a fast CD-RW and breakout box though in the front.
Also, the new G4 has a front headphone jack, audio in, more RAM slots I believe (up to 2 GB or 4 slots as opposed to the 3 on my Quicksilver). There is so much wasted space in my tower. It makes so much sense that I could have another drive bay on the bottom but it would be a HARD hack job to do it. I could always try to get an audio card or device that had everything the breakout box did on the back, as well as audio in so I can use the old Apple plaintalk mic that came with my beige G3.
Is the case really ugly in person? How much do you figure I can get on eBay for my DP 1 GHz? Not sure what kind of a price I can get through my college for the new ones, but I'll enquire about that.
If you want a frame of reference, while the Online Apple Edu store has the Dual 1 Gig for $2349, my school's (UCSB) bookstore has the Dual 1 Gig for $2299. And they're actually listing the Dual 1.25 at $2999 (as opposed to $3101 from Apple).
<strong>Darren Smith listed the VeloCD CDRW as an add-on drive. I use one now in my PC, but I cant find anything saying it will be compatible with the powermac...anyone know if it will work with iTunes? I see nothing about apple on the tdk website and nothing in the lists of compatible hardware at apples website. The super drive is super slow!</strong><hr></blockquote>
The VeloCD is not iTunes compatible (I'm not sure about Disc Burner). That doesn't bother me, though. I use Toast for all of my burning and I'm sure Apple will release a disc burning update in the near future that will add compatibility.
BTW...The VeloCD is not an add-on available from Apple. I ordered it locally and will install it myself.
[ 08-16-2002: Message edited by: Darren Smith ]</p>
<strong>I purchased my dual 1 GHz tower this morning from the online Apple store. One of the reasons I wanted the dual 1 Ghz was because they're shipping in 1-3 days... well I found out that only applies if you order a preconfigured one. I did mine BTO and changed the default ATi 9000 to a GeForce 4 Ti card. Now the ship date says 2-3 weeks.
I'm not really mad, but I am a little disappointed. I mean adding 2.5 weeks to the ship date to swap video cards, which due to the fabulous design of the towers, is at most a 1 minute job, including the screwing and unscrewing of the card? Eh... little peeved about that. All I can think of is that Apple is so backed up with BTO orders that it really is going to take that long to get to mine...
And I don't even believe that. But it's still cheaper than getting the Mac from a retail store and buying the GeForce 4 Ti kit seperately.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I downgraded my video card to the nVidia 4MX and my machine has been delayed as well. Grrr. Maybe I'll go see if I can order one from elsewhere (cheaper?) and cancel the Apple order...
<strong>Interesting that a lot of you opted for the GeForce 4 Ti... I'm about to buy the dual 1 GHz tower myself. BTO with the GeForce 4 Ti and without the modem.
I recommend that nobody add memory at the Apple store... it's 2-3 times more expensive that way. Just get your Mac with the RAM it comes with by default and buy the rest somewhere else like Ramjet, Memory X or even a store like Fry's. It's standard PC2700 DDR memory after all, you should be able to get it just about anywhere.</strong><hr></blockquote>
pssst... the graphics card is also 2-3 times more expensive. you're best bet would be to flash a pc ati or nvidia card.
<strong>JohnHenry: Yeah, it will work fine. But if I were you, instead of getting one of those BTO from Apple, just order a Lite-On 48x20x40x from somewhere online. I'm sure that would be a lot cheaper, and Lite-On make great burners (bought one for my G3).</strong><hr></blockquote>
I have to agree, my lite-on 24x has been great. fully supported by itunes/disc burner/toast/nero
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A) Makes sense when I sold it for $3200!
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How the **** could you sell that machine for that price?! <img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" /> :eek: <img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" /> <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
Before doing so, I need to watch the reviews, complains, critics and benchmarks.
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How the **** could you sell that machine for that price?! <img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" /> :eek: <img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" /> <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Long story. It was a Dual GHz, GB of Ram and a GeForce3.
I'm not really mad, but I am a little disappointed. I mean adding 2.5 weeks to the ship date to swap video cards, which due to the fabulous design of the towers, is at most a 1 minute job, including the screwing and unscrewing of the card? Eh... little peeved about that. All I can think of is that Apple is so backed up with BTO orders that it really is going to take that long to get to mine...
And I don't even believe that. But it's still cheaper than getting the Mac from a retail store and buying the GeForce 4 Ti kit seperately.
-Dual 867
[ 08-16-2002: Message edited by: Dual 867 ]</p>
I really need those drive bays. I want a fast burner in addition to DVD or DVD-RW, plus I want something for my audio breakout box. I could live with a fast CD-RW and breakout box though in the front.
Also, the new G4 has a front headphone jack, audio in, more RAM slots I believe (up to 2 GB or 4 slots as opposed to the 3 on my Quicksilver). There is so much wasted space in my tower. It makes so much sense that I could have another drive bay on the bottom but it would be a HARD hack job to do it. I could always try to get an audio card or device that had everything the breakout box did on the back, as well as audio in so I can use the old Apple plaintalk mic that came with my beige G3.
Is the case really ugly in person? How much do you figure I can get on eBay for my DP 1 GHz? Not sure what kind of a price I can get through my college for the new ones, but I'll enquire about that.
Decisions decision.....
If you want a frame of reference, while the Online Apple Edu store has the Dual 1 Gig for $2349, my school's (UCSB) bookstore has the Dual 1 Gig for $2299. And they're actually listing the Dual 1.25 at $2999 (as opposed to $3101 from Apple).
<strong>Darren Smith listed the VeloCD CDRW as an add-on drive. I use one now in my PC, but I cant find anything saying it will be compatible with the powermac...anyone know if it will work with iTunes? I see nothing about apple on the tdk website and nothing in the lists of compatible hardware at apples website. The super drive is super slow!</strong><hr></blockquote>
The VeloCD is not iTunes compatible (I'm not sure about Disc Burner). That doesn't bother me, though. I use Toast for all of my burning and I'm sure Apple will release a disc burning update in the near future that will add compatibility.
BTW...The VeloCD is not an add-on available from Apple. I ordered it locally and will install it myself.
[ 08-16-2002: Message edited by: Darren Smith ]</p>
POWER MAC G4 CTO (P58-166MHZ\tZ05N\t
DP 1.25GHZ 2MB L3 Proc
512MB DDR DRAM@333MHZ-1 DIMM
120GB ULTRA ATA 7200RPM
Apple Superdrive
NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti,128MB
56K Int Modem
Airport Card Int
USB Keyboard- PMG4 -T
MAC'OS MINI KIT-T
Accessory kit-PMG4/T
APPLE PRO SPEAKER KIT-GEN\tM8756G/A
Kinda funnny how resellers ALWAYS beat Apple's aparently "low" prices.
Hm, my ass
Playing the waiting game now....6 damn weeks.
G-News
<strong>I purchased my dual 1 GHz tower this morning from the online Apple store. One of the reasons I wanted the dual 1 Ghz was because they're shipping in 1-3 days... well I found out that only applies if you order a preconfigured one. I did mine BTO and changed the default ATi 9000 to a GeForce 4 Ti card. Now the ship date says 2-3 weeks.
I'm not really mad, but I am a little disappointed. I mean adding 2.5 weeks to the ship date to swap video cards, which due to the fabulous design of the towers, is at most a 1 minute job, including the screwing and unscrewing of the card? Eh... little peeved about that. All I can think of is that Apple is so backed up with BTO orders that it really is going to take that long to get to mine...
And I don't even believe that. But it's still cheaper than getting the Mac from a retail store and buying the GeForce 4 Ti kit seperately.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I downgraded my video card to the nVidia 4MX and my machine has been delayed as well. Grrr. Maybe I'll go see if I can order one from elsewhere (cheaper?) and cancel the Apple order...
Mac OS - U.S. English
256MB PC2700 DDR SDRAM - 1 DIMM
56K internal modem
Apple Pro Keyboard - U.S. English
Power Mac G4 Dual 1GHz w/167MHz system bus
Optical 2 - None
ATI Radeon 9000 Pro dual-display w/64MB DDR
Optical 1 - Apple SuperDrive
80GB Ultra ATA drive
APP for Power Mac (w/ or w/o display) - Enrollment Kit
partially shipped
looks like the time to ship date for the stock conigured macs is bumped to 5-7 days if you're purchasing for education
guess i shoulda ordered thru the federal store <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
<strong>Interesting that a lot of you opted for the GeForce 4 Ti... I'm about to buy the dual 1 GHz tower myself. BTO with the GeForce 4 Ti and without the modem.
I recommend that nobody add memory at the Apple store... it's 2-3 times more expensive that way. Just get your Mac with the RAM it comes with by default and buy the rest somewhere else like Ramjet, Memory X or even a store like Fry's. It's standard PC2700 DDR memory after all, you should be able to get it just about anywhere.</strong><hr></blockquote>
pssst... the graphics card is also 2-3 times more expensive. you're best bet would be to flash a pc ati or nvidia card.
[ 08-17-2002: Message edited by: serrano ]</p>
<strong>JohnHenry: Yeah, it will work fine. But if I were you, instead of getting one of those BTO from Apple, just order a Lite-On 48x20x40x from somewhere online. I'm sure that would be a lot cheaper, and Lite-On make great burners (bought one for my G3).</strong><hr></blockquote>
I have to agree, my lite-on 24x has been great. fully supported by itunes/disc burner/toast/nero