In theory, yes, but the proximity sensing still throws a monkey wrench because a finger near the secondary button while clicking the primary button registers as a secondary button click.
I tried every mighty mouse in the Apple store my last trip there, I couldn't get a single one to right-click properly with consistency! I'll wait until Apple comes out with a true 2 button mouse, not a 1.5 button one...
Because it's not two real buttons and cannot be used as efficiently as a real second button. The proximity sensing demands that a finger to be away from the left mouse button in order to click the right mouse button, which isn't ergonomic. It's a contrived solution.
Not really. It's just different to older mechanically operated mice buttons which let you leave a finger on the other button. Most people get used to it in no time at all.
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Originally posted by JeffDM
Left-handed use of this mouse is exceedingly irritating too because it would assume the secondary button for every click.
In theory, yes, but the proximity sensing still throws a monkey wrench because a finger near the secondary button while clicking the primary button registers as a secondary button click.
Not in theory, in real life. Are you on crack?
I'm quite left handed, and I use my mighty mouse quite well. I think that obviously it's not for everyone, but to insinuate that it's unusable for a left-handed person is just off the wall BS.
I tried every mighty mouse in the Apple store my last trip there, I couldn't get a single one to right-click properly with consistency! I'll wait until Apple comes out with a true 2 button mouse, not a 1.5 button one...
It IS a true 2-button mouse ? my dad has one, and while I prefer my Kensington mouse, I can easily right-click every single time. Perhaps you keep leaving your index finger resting on the left button?
I don't know why you'd want Bluetooth for something you leave in the same place on your desk all the time though.
I designed my computer desk with two slide out units. The top one holds the remote switchbox, keyboard, and trackball. The bottom, much deeper one holds a 12 x 18 drawing tablet, and rulers etc.
When pulling the shelves out, and pushing them in, wires can get snagged. Even though I have methods to try to prevent that, with a complex set-up, it's impossible. No wires are much better. I use Apple's wireless keyboard, but it doesn't have a USB socket.
Or maybe that worrying about surface bacteria is about the dumbest thing in the world and a scam perpetrated by disinfectant companies to sell their products.
is there anything else that changed, besided the cord?
is the regular mighty mouse laser too?
what about battery life?
The old mice were optical and not as accurate as even a normal basic optical Microsoft Intellimouse so hopefully that's a big improvement. I don't know about battery life but the old bluetooth mouse wouldn't run on one battery.
I'm quite left handed, and I use my mighty mouse quite well. I think that obviously it's not for everyone, but to insinuate that it's unusable for a left-handed person is just off the wall BS.
The original driver certainly was unusable, IMO. It might be fixed but I'd have to uninstall USB Overdrive to test it out again.
ewww... I can't stand the palm trackball mice. Using the thumb is way more precise and less wrist strain since you never actually have to twist your hand.
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I don't know why you'd want Bluetooth for something you leave in the same place on your desk all the time though.
Say you have you have a really large monitor which you place a long distance away from yourself and so your mouse cable won't reach that far.
Or in my case, I have a pullout keyboard drawer and the cable tends to snag and/or get caught on something every now and then. Or when I connect new devices/change things around, and some other cables pile on top of the mouse cable, weigh it down, causing the mouse to get pulled off the edge of the tray.
The original driver certainly was unusable, IMO. It might be fixed but I'd have to uninstall USB Overdrive to test it out again.
I have no idea about the original driver, but it works just the same for a right or left handed person at the very least, as of February 06 when I got my iMac.
Being a bit ambidextrous, I have in fact had it set up both ways.
Perhaps you should make sure you're not spouting out of date opinions in the future?
Perhaps you should make sure you're not spouting out of date opinions in the future?
Maybe because I've never seen anything, anywhere, mention an updated driver? Maybe the PPC driver is still behind, the proximity detection is still problematic.
I'm sorry if I've offended you, that wasn't my intention.
Not really. It's just different to older mechanically operated mice buttons which let you leave a finger on the other button. Most people get used to it in no time at all.
I understand that most people might get used to it, but I highly doubt it's ergonomical, especially in light of having to move two fingers to make one click, rather than just one, or always hovering the hand rather than letting it rest.
I know you probably think I am stupid for not trying that, but I really have tried that control panel, the proximity sensing problem ran deeper than that.
I don't know why you'd want Bluetooth for something you leave in the same place on your desk all the time though.
Because when I travel I'd rather just pull out the device (trackball or mouse) and not deal with running cables across a conference table, or hotel bed, or airport chair.
And I have the drawer issue like melgross. My wired keyboard's cable was too short and I had to buy an extender.
And, I'm a Mighty Mouse owner and hater. Came with my iMac. Tried it for a couple weeks. HORRIBLE little creature. (Left-handed too, FWIW).
Thanks for the link, though. If my current Kensington trackball ever dies I may try that one out.
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Originally posted by JeffDM
In theory, yes, but the proximity sensing still throws a monkey wrench because a finger near the secondary button while clicking the primary button registers as a secondary button click.
I tried every mighty mouse in the Apple store my last trip there, I couldn't get a single one to right-click properly with consistency! I'll wait until Apple comes out with a true 2 button mouse, not a 1.5 button one...
Originally posted by JeffDM
Because it's not two real buttons and cannot be used as efficiently as a real second button. The proximity sensing demands that a finger to be away from the left mouse button in order to click the right mouse button, which isn't ergonomic. It's a contrived solution.
Not really. It's just different to older mechanically operated mice buttons which let you leave a finger on the other button. Most people get used to it in no time at all.
Originally posted by JeffDM
Left-handed use of this mouse is exceedingly irritating too because it would assume the secondary button for every click.
You can configure the buttons either way. See http://www.apple.com/mightymouse/software.html and watch the preference animation.
I am buying two today. Can't wait.
Originally posted by JeffDM
In theory, yes, but the proximity sensing still throws a monkey wrench because a finger near the secondary button while clicking the primary button registers as a secondary button click.
Not in theory, in real life. Are you on crack?
I'm quite left handed, and I use my mighty mouse quite well. I think that obviously it's not for everyone, but to insinuate that it's unusable for a left-handed person is just off the wall BS.
Originally posted by iPoster
I tried every mighty mouse in the Apple store my last trip there, I couldn't get a single one to right-click properly with consistency! I'll wait until Apple comes out with a true 2 button mouse, not a 1.5 button one...
It IS a true 2-button mouse ? my dad has one, and while I prefer my Kensington mouse, I can easily right-click every single time. Perhaps you keep leaving your index finger resting on the left button?
Originally posted by Ichiban_jay
" In fact, the average desk harbors 400 times more bacteria than the average toilet seat.
That would explain why there's always so much crap on my desk...
Originally posted by jasenj1
But where, oh where, are the bluetooth trackballs? *sniff*
- Jasen.
P.S. Thank heaven the Mighty Mouse banner finally pushed the TV ads off the front page of Apple's site!
That's what bothers me. I don't use mice. Trackballs seem to use some other, usually proprietary radio method. I don't want another wireless method.
Originally posted by pmjoe
Bluetooth trackball:
http://www.chwangyi.com/the_ball.html
I don't know why you'd want Bluetooth for something you leave in the same place on your desk all the time though.
I designed my computer desk with two slide out units. The top one holds the remote switchbox, keyboard, and trackball. The bottom, much deeper one holds a 12 x 18 drawing tablet, and rulers etc.
When pulling the shelves out, and pushing them in, wires can get snagged. Even though I have methods to try to prevent that, with a complex set-up, it's impossible. No wires are much better. I use Apple's wireless keyboard, but it doesn't have a USB socket.
Originally posted by TKN
Or maybe that worrying about surface bacteria is about the dumbest thing in the world and a scam perpetrated by disinfectant companies to sell their products.
No.
is the regular mighty mouse laser too?
what about battery life?
Originally posted by hkbaq
is there anything else that changed, besided the cord?
is the regular mighty mouse laser too?
what about battery life?
The old mice were optical and not as accurate as even a normal basic optical Microsoft Intellimouse so hopefully that's a big improvement. I don't know about battery life but the old bluetooth mouse wouldn't run on one battery.
Originally posted by Flounder
Not in theory, in real life. Are you on crack?
I'm quite left handed, and I use my mighty mouse quite well. I think that obviously it's not for everyone, but to insinuate that it's unusable for a left-handed person is just off the wall BS.
The original driver certainly was unusable, IMO. It might be fixed but I'd have to uninstall USB Overdrive to test it out again.
Originally posted by pmjoe
Bluetooth trackball:
http://www.chwangyi.com/the_ball.html
ewww... I can't stand the palm trackball mice. Using the thumb is way more precise and less wrist strain since you never actually have to twist your hand.
I don't know why you'd want Bluetooth for something you leave in the same place on your desk all the time though.
Say you have you have a really large monitor which you place a long distance away from yourself and so your mouse cable won't reach that far.
Or in my case, I have a pullout keyboard drawer and the cable tends to snag and/or get caught on something every now and then. Or when I connect new devices/change things around, and some other cables pile on top of the mouse cable, weigh it down, causing the mouse to get pulled off the edge of the tray.
Originally posted by JeffDM
The original driver certainly was unusable, IMO. It might be fixed but I'd have to uninstall USB Overdrive to test it out again.
I have no idea about the original driver, but it works just the same for a right or left handed person at the very least, as of February 06 when I got my iMac.
Being a bit ambidextrous, I have in fact had it set up both ways.
Perhaps you should make sure you're not spouting out of date opinions in the future?
Originally posted by Flounder
Perhaps you should make sure you're not spouting out of date opinions in the future?
Maybe because I've never seen anything, anywhere, mention an updated driver? Maybe the PPC driver is still behind, the proximity detection is still problematic.
I'm sorry if I've offended you, that wasn't my intention.
Originally posted by aegisdesign
Not really. It's just different to older mechanically operated mice buttons which let you leave a finger on the other button. Most people get used to it in no time at all.
I understand that most people might get used to it, but I highly doubt it's ergonomical, especially in light of having to move two fingers to make one click, rather than just one, or always hovering the hand rather than letting it rest.
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You can configure the buttons either way. See http://www.apple.com/mightymouse/software.html and watch the preference animation.
I know you probably think I am stupid for not trying that, but I really have tried that control panel, the proximity sensing problem ran deeper than that.
Originally posted by pmjoe
I don't know why you'd want Bluetooth for something you leave in the same place on your desk all the time though.
Because when I travel I'd rather just pull out the device (trackball or mouse) and not deal with running cables across a conference table, or hotel bed, or airport chair.
And I have the drawer issue like melgross. My wired keyboard's cable was too short and I had to buy an extender.
And, I'm a Mighty Mouse owner and hater. Came with my iMac. Tried it for a couple weeks. HORRIBLE little creature. (Left-handed too, FWIW).
Thanks for the link, though. If my current Kensington trackball ever dies I may try that one out.
- Jasen.
Originally posted by jasenj1
HORRIBLE little creature.
Oh yeah? Well...
the Mighty Mouse is NOT horrible.
this is an objective, reality based statement, so don't bother responding.