No ZFS for Leopard: According to WWDC Banners!!!

hkbaqhkbaq
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in macOS edited January 2014
According to the Zettabyte file system entry in wikipedia, there will be no ZFS is Leopard. Mainly because ZFS is a 128 bit system, and the latest posters from WWDC showed the recently MIA 64 bit logo. this is just what i understand from the entry....am i right?



ZFS is a 128-bit file system, which means it can store 18 billion billion (18 quintillion) times more data than current 64-bit systems. The limitations of ZFS are designed to be so large that they will never be encountered in practice. Project leader Bonwick said, "Populating 128-bit file systems would exceed the quantum limits of earth-based storage. You couldn't fill a 128-bit storage pool without boiling the oceans.

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  • Reply 1 of 11
    hirohiro Posts: 2,663member
    The bitness of the CPU is completely immaterial. Do you actually think ANYONE has a 128 bit native integer sized CPU shipping???



    The silence of the yea's is deafening.



    Please make sure you didn't forget your clue before driving the bit bus.
  • Reply 2 of 11
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
    The bitness of the file system relates to how many files it can store and is unrelated to the CPU.
  • Reply 3 of 11
    hkbaqhkbaq Posts: 58member
    so basically the processor and memory allocation has nothing to do with the 128 bit filesystem right?



    i really wasn't sure....thanks for that info



    so that when they do announce it i don't yell: heresy!!!!!.....lol



    Welcome ZFS, Really!!!
  • Reply 4 of 11
    skatmanskatman Posts: 609member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hiro


    The bitness of the CPU is completely immaterial. Do you actually think ANYONE has a 128 bit native integer sized CPU shipping???



    The silence of the yea's is deafening.



    Please make sure you didn't forget your clue before driving the bit bus.



    Yup. Intel as well as AMD... SSE2/3 can handle 128 bit integers natively.
  • Reply 5 of 11
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
    But that's basically a co-processor.
  • Reply 6 of 11
    placeboplacebo Posts: 5,767member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hkbaq


    According to the Zettabyte file system entry in wikipedia, there will be no ZFS is Leopard. Mainly because ZFS is a 128 bit system, and the latest posters from WWDC showed the recently MIA 64 bit logo. this is just what i understand from the entry....am i right?



    ZFS is a 128-bit file system, which means it can store 18 billion billion (18 quintillion) times more data than current 64-bit systems. The limitations of ZFS are designed to be so large that they will never be encountered in practice. Project leader Bonwick said, "Populating 128-bit file systems would exceed the quantum limits of earth-based storage. You couldn't fill a 128-bit storage pool without boiling the oceans.







    omfg that's hilarious, next you'll be telling me that we'll have to wait a few decades to use graphics cards with the 256-bit memory interface that's been in most of them since 2004
  • Reply 7 of 11
    hkbaqhkbaq Posts: 58member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Placebo


    omfg that's hilarious, next you'll be telling me that we'll have to wait a few decades to use graphics cards with the 256-bit memory interface that's been in most of them since 2004





    this post was to clarify a doubt of terminology...obviously you don't understand that....
  • Reply 8 of 11
    davegeedavegee Posts: 2,765member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hkbaq


    this post was to clarify a doubt of terminology...obviously you don't understand that....



    Sorry, but it was nothing of the kind...



    Subject: No ZFS for Leopard: According to WWDC Banners!!!



    Note, not one, not two, but THREE exclamation points. They indicate a sense of urgency and certainty in your statement.



    Subject: No ZFS for Leopard? (According to WWDC Banners)



    Note skillfully placed question-mark that indicates you are NOT sure and therefore asking for a clarification of your specific interpretation of things. Do we REALLY need to explain all this? (silly question since it's quite clear we do)



    D
  • Reply 9 of 11
    davegeedavegee Posts: 2,765member
    Quote:

    Project leader Bonwick said, "Populating 128-bit file systems would exceed the quantum limits of earth-based storage. You couldn't fill a 128-bit storage pool without boiling the oceans.



    "You couldn't fill a 128-bit storage pool without boiling the oceans"



    Oh yea sure.... Bonwick sounds just like Gates when he said nobody would EVER need more than 640k of RAM.



    "You couldn't fill a 128-bit storage pool without boiling the oceans"



    Never under estimate the amount of porn one can accumulate over a lifetime.



    "You couldn't fill a 128-bit storage pool without boiling the oceans"



    Good that's something I usually try an avoid at all costs since it makes the fish grumpy.



    I got a million of em!



    D
  • Reply 10 of 11
    hkbaqhkbaq Posts: 58member
    i'll take that into consideration next time



    thanks for the advice on posting...(in a non-sarcastic manner)





    3 more hours!!!!
  • Reply 11 of 11
    placeboplacebo Posts: 5,767member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DaveGee


    Sorry, but it was nothing of the kind...



    Subject: No ZFS for Leopard: According to WWDC Banners!!!



    Note, not one, not two, but THREE exclamation points. They indicate a sense of urgency and certainty in your statement.



    Subject: No ZFS for Leopard? (According to WWDC Banners)



    Note skillfully placed question-mark that indicates you are NOT sure and therefore asking for a clarification of your specific interpretation of things. Do we REALLY need to explain all this? (silly question since it's quite clear we do)



    D



    More like Subject: Noobie question about bits, can somebody clarify this for me?
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