in europe, where the ipod is not as omnipresent as in the states, you see everyone listening to (music) their phones.
it started as *another* added functionality. but current mnodels are taking that seriously, namely sony, that can kill anything but the 30GB+ ipods.
im sure apple is aware of this. it's not a matter or "why" but "when" the iphone will surface.
either this or sony will eat the market alone.
btw, when nokia ships a 3mpixel phone with 8GB for mp3/aac im selling my 5g ipod. the ipod is great but it's too bulky for a *dumb* device (no input capabilities) which ONLY does ONE thing well: playing music. anything else do cellphones MUCH better.
only apple can build a phone/cam/mp3 player with a decent OS -which also perfectly syncs to computers.
Well how do I say this and not sound condescending???? Hmmm... Well, okay, I can't. So here goes... Ask your mom and dad if you can see the cell phone bill they're clearly paying for you and look at the number of minutes and features and then look at the cost.
$99 for 2,500 anytime minutes + unlimited IM + unlimited N/W+ Unlimited Data!?!?!? Hell you should thrown in 'roll-over' and 'penalty free laptop tethering' too.
Dave
Just wanted to say, that here in Finland you can get a 3g phone+1000min calls+300sms+unlimited data for 70,90?/month(89,24$). Ditch the phone, and add those minutes, it probably would come, quite close to 99$ for such plan.
The US Auto industry has followed a mindset which went like this. "If we keep cramming more and more features into our cars, people will buy them". The problem is that the rest of the world was making *better* cars instead of cars with more features.
I am not convinced that a better phone has a hi-def video recording solution, a hard-drive based music juke box or any of that crap.
The US Auto industry has followed a mindset which went like this. "If we keep cramming more and more features into our cars, people will buy them". The problem is that the rest of the world was making *better* cars instead of cars with more features.
I am not convinced that a better phone has a hi-def video recording solution, a hard-drive based music juke box or any of that crap.
C.
you obviously dont take into account teenagers and bussiness managers all over europe and japan (read millions), who change their cellphones every 3-6 months looking for more and more features, and keep this industry into what the PC industry used to be, the edge and cream of the technology innovation.
you can live in the flinstones era if you want.
in europe we just moved over.
edit: oh well, you live in england it seems. then you know what im talking about.
a cellphone integrating 3mpix+ camera and mp3 player may sound complicated or unneeded only because the most important part of it is THE INTERFACE, and to date all of them are still too *windowslike*, nokia beinng IMO the more *applelike*
Apple knows how to do implement a powerful and simple OS.
Just wanted to say, that here in Finland you can get a 3g phone+1000min calls+300sms+unlimited data for 70,90?/month(89,24$). Ditch the phone, and add those minutes, it probably would come, quite close to 99$ for such plan.
Well it's a clearly a good thing for the rest of the world that the US FCC doesn't control (and get to auction to the highest bidder) your cellular frequencies too then eh?
If I'm not mistaken much of the rest of the world has 'country run/owned/controled' phone systems right?
you obviously dont take into account teenagers and bussiness managers all over europe and japan (read millions), who change their cellphones every 3-6 months looking for more and more features, and keep this industry into what the PC industry used to be, the edge and cream of the technology innovation.
That's kinda my point.
The mobile phone market is cluttered up with gimmicks, fashion and non-transparent ways of buying the phones. It is an over-crowded and immature market, and I am not sure those Japanese teenagers would recognize great design if it leapt up out of an Akibara toilet and bit them on the ass.
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it started as *another* added functionality. but current mnodels are taking that seriously, namely sony, that can kill anything but the 30GB+ ipods.
im sure apple is aware of this. it's not a matter or "why" but "when" the iphone will surface.
either this or sony will eat the market alone.
btw, when nokia ships a 3mpixel phone with 8GB for mp3/aac im selling my 5g ipod. the ipod is great but it's too bulky for a *dumb* device (no input capabilities) which ONLY does ONE thing well: playing music. anything else do cellphones MUCH better.
only apple can build a phone/cam/mp3 player with a decent OS -which also perfectly syncs to computers.
we're waiting.
Well how do I say this and not sound condescending???? Hmmm... Well, okay, I can't. So here goes... Ask your mom and dad if you can see the cell phone bill they're clearly paying for you and look at the number of minutes and features and then look at the cost.
$99 for 2,500 anytime minutes + unlimited IM + unlimited N/W+ Unlimited Data!?!?!? Hell you should thrown in 'roll-over' and 'penalty free laptop tethering' too.
Dave
Just wanted to say, that here in Finland you can get a 3g phone+1000min calls+300sms+unlimited data for 70,90?/month(89,24$). Ditch the phone, and add those minutes, it probably would come, quite close to 99$ for such plan.
I am not convinced that a better phone has a hi-def video recording solution, a hard-drive based music juke box or any of that crap.
C.
The US Auto industry has followed a mindset which went like this. "If we keep cramming more and more features into our cars, people will buy them". The problem is that the rest of the world was making *better* cars instead of cars with more features.
I am not convinced that a better phone has a hi-def video recording solution, a hard-drive based music juke box or any of that crap.
C.
you obviously dont take into account teenagers and bussiness managers all over europe and japan (read millions), who change their cellphones every 3-6 months looking for more and more features, and keep this industry into what the PC industry used to be, the edge and cream of the technology innovation.
you can live in the flinstones era if you want.
in europe we just moved over.
edit: oh well, you live in england it seems. then you know what im talking about.
a cellphone integrating 3mpix+ camera and mp3 player may sound complicated or unneeded only because the most important part of it is THE INTERFACE, and to date all of them are still too *windowslike*, nokia beinng IMO the more *applelike*
Apple knows how to do implement a powerful and simple OS.
Just wanted to say, that here in Finland you can get a 3g phone+1000min calls+300sms+unlimited data for 70,90?/month(89,24$). Ditch the phone, and add those minutes, it probably would come, quite close to 99$ for such plan.
Well it's a clearly a good thing for the rest of the world that the US FCC doesn't control (and get to auction to the highest bidder) your cellular frequencies too then eh?
If I'm not mistaken much of the rest of the world has 'country run/owned/controled' phone systems right?
D
you obviously dont take into account teenagers and bussiness managers all over europe and japan (read millions), who change their cellphones every 3-6 months looking for more and more features, and keep this industry into what the PC industry used to be, the edge and cream of the technology innovation.
That's kinda my point.
The mobile phone market is cluttered up with gimmicks, fashion and non-transparent ways of buying the phones. It is an over-crowded and immature market, and I am not sure those Japanese teenagers would recognize great design if it leapt up out of an Akibara toilet and bit them on the ass.
C.