I was promised 80 gigs

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in Current Mac Hardware edited January 2014
This is weird,just got my new 17" iMac up an running(it was online within an hour) its the computer of my dreams and i love it already, but the computer says the hard drive is 74.5 gigs and that I have 68.9 left. does Jaguar really take up 6 gigabytes?, and why don't a get the full 80 gigs?, i feal slightly ripped off.
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  • Reply 1 of 21
    [quote]Originally posted by xionja:

    <strong>This is weird,just got my new 17" iMac up an running(it was online within an hour) its the computer of my dreams and i love it already, but the computer says the hard drive is 74.5 gigs and that I have 68.9 left. does Jaguar really take up 6 gigabytes?, and why don't a get the full 80 gigs?, i feal slightly ripped off.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    All your apps, OS, and documents take up that second 6 gigs of space. The actual formatted capacity of a hard drive is almost always somewhat less than the advertised disk space. Its a fact of tech.
  • Reply 2 of 21
    torifiletorifile Posts: 4,024member
    You actually only started out with 78.125 gigs. The advertised capacity is in 1000kB, but a meg is 1024kb, so there's some lost in the rounding. Read the fine print on any drive. :/ False advertising? Maybe, but it's just industry standard.
  • Reply 3 of 21
    read up about it <a href="http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=30065"; target="_blank">here</a>
  • Reply 4 of 21
    tooltool Posts: 242member
    Heck..with a 120GB HD, after installing OSX, you have 111GB. I know, it's not the OS.
  • Reply 5 of 21
    cyloncylon Posts: 126member
    I too just got a 17" iMac. I got it as interim computer. I was using an old 7300/200. I decided to wait on getting a tower and 22" cinema for now. Thought I'd give to iMac to the kids when I was done. But I have to tell you, I love this computer. The screen didn't seem that big sitting in the store, but sitting on my desk it seems huge. It does have 2 dead pixels already though. But what I love most after listening to all the complaints about the towers, it is QUIET! Is it the fastest thing out there..no. But compared to what I was using before, it is blazing. The internet is almost bearable on a dial up now. Can't wait till my DSL gets hooked up later this week.
  • Reply 6 of 21
    airslufairsluf Posts: 1,861member
  • Reply 7 of 21
    lucaluca Posts: 3,833member
    What further complicates it is that some hard drives advertise their capacity and size separately... for example, the size of the 2GB Toshiba from my PowerBook was actually 2.16GB or something, but it was a true 2GB drive in that the capacity after formatting was exactly 2 GB.
  • Reply 8 of 21
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    I think the iDVD and iMovie tutorials also take up quite a bit of space.
  • Reply 9 of 21
    imudimud Posts: 140member
    Well since OS X is built on UNIX there might also be a swap partition or file thats taking up space.
  • Reply 10 of 21
    I have an external "120 GB" FireWire HD with an IBM drive inside and I get a 115,033 GB capacity, you never get the "promised" capacity on any HD.
  • Reply 11 of 21
    In the SI prefix system which we all know...

    1 kiloX is 1000 X's

    1 megaX is 1000 kiloX's

    1 gigaX is 1000 megaX's



    However, in computing, we have...

    1 kilobyte is 1024 bytes

    1 megabyte is 1024 kilobytes

    1 gigabyte is 1024 megabytes.



    This is because 1024 is as close to 1000 as we can get with a number that is a power of 2 (2 to the 10).



    A "gigabyte" really is 1024 times 1024 times 1024 bytes. But, if you're selling a hard drive, you want it to seem as large as possible. You can get away with using "GB" to represent 1000000000 bytes, and your drive will be magically larger.



    So... take the advertised capacity of your drive in GB and do the following:



    1. multiply by 1000 three times

    2. divide by 1024 three times



    This is the "real" capacity of your drive in gigabytes. That is, this is the number that the Finder, et al uses.



    3. Open Disk Utility. In the left column, find your drive (should be pretty easy). There's a number next to it. That is also the "real" capacity of your drive. That number and the number you calculated above should be exactly the same.
  • Reply 12 of 21
    okay it makes sense. . . slightly deceptive to the idiots though <img src="graemlins/embarrassed.gif" border="0" alt="[Embarrassed]" /> If I do small time video(growing everyday), how much space will it take up?, I use adobe premeir, my computer friend says not too much like I could fit 2 hours in 20 gigs, but another friend who does analog vide says like one hour will take up my entire hard drive. . . whats true?, the file size grows signifigantly with effects and imported music right. all the video i've done is on school computers with external drives, so i never bothered to look.
  • Reply 13 of 21
    otherwise, how are you liking it??? my boss at work just got his iMac 17"...the bastard...makes me feel somewhat "shorted" with my 15" iMac (damn that is a big looking 2 inches....no nasty comments please)...it is really lovely and wide and nice....might get tempted to give this iMac to the kids much sooner than i thought i would....damn...had my quadra 7 years before getting an iMac....had my iMac dv 3 years before getting the imac lcd....will probably upgrade in a year to larger iMac....i am turning into Murbot :eek: .....it really looks like a lovely machine and i am sure you will love it xionja......g
  • Reply 14 of 21
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    This is where kibi, mebi, gibi, etc. are supposed to come in. I'll always think of kilo, mega, and giga as 10^3, 10^6 and 10^9. The metric system devised it; It's too bad the computing world had to come in withy binary and confuse everybody...
  • Reply 15 of 21
    spartspart Posts: 2,060member
    Formatted capacity? Screw that...who cares...



    ...when you have a one yottabyte HD (ten to the twenty-fourth, I think.)
  • Reply 16 of 21
    Yes I love the computer, more than anything non-human ever. although the godamn fed ex dropped it on his way out of the truck, i don't care if he got hurt falling. My cd drive is having problems, noisynoisynoisy after it pops out, when you push the key on the keyboard for it to go back in, it trys but it can't and i have to help it out manually. Its really noisy and such. It makes me so angry that its brokenish alredy. I am currently listening to the music playing on apple tech support line, yarr.
  • Reply 17 of 21
    [quote]Originally posted by Power Apple:

    <strong>I have an external "120 GB" FireWire HD with an IBM drive inside and I get a 115,033 GB capacity, you never get the "promised" capacity on any HD.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Dang! <img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" /> Thats like, what, 100 terabytes? Where'd ya get that thang? If thats how IBM breaks a 'promise', then here I come Big Blue!



    (tig)



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  • Reply 18 of 21
    Both your friends are mistaken about how much disc space you need for the DV video. It's 13GB per hour in the full resolution capture mode. And it's one GB per hour in the draft capture mode.
  • Reply 19 of 21
    Depends what meathod of capture you use. I get15GB/sec min.
  • Reply 20 of 21
    bradbowerbradbower Posts: 1,068member
    [quote]Originally posted by Altivec_2.0:

    <strong>Depends what meathod of capture you use. I get15GB/sec min.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    15GB a second? Minimum? <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />



    Perhaps you meant per minute, not second.
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