Time Machine

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in macOS edited January 2014
Is time Machine a gift to authorities in the war on terror? Probably means that anything you do or look at is recorded.



Paranoid?
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  • Reply 1 of 36
    kenaustuskenaustus Posts: 924member
    Nope. They use WIndows.



    It does mean, however, that your wife and/or girlfriend can check up to see if you've been into porn . . .
  • Reply 2 of 36
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    Wow, that is amazingly paranoid.



    Tell TM not to handle certain files/folders/drives, ala Spotlight.



    Done.



    Jeez.
  • Reply 3 of 36
    amodaamoda Posts: 17member
    It does mean, however, that your wife and/or girlfriend can check up to see if you've been into porn . . .





    First thing that came to my mind, and in my case you can add parents to that list
  • Reply 4 of 36
    kim kap solkim kap sol Posts: 2,987member
    Time Machine is...optional.



    I suppose regular backups are a gift to authorities in the war on terror also. Don't backup, for the love of god, don't backup.
  • Reply 5 of 36
    murkmurk Posts: 935member
    I'm pretty sure Phil Schiller is watching me though my iSight already.
  • Reply 6 of 36
    glurxglurx Posts: 1,031member
    I suppose regular backups are a gift to authorities in the war on terror also. Don't backup, for the love of god, don't backup.



    Use encryption.



    Any file you wouldn't like to see printed on the front page of the New York Times should be encrypted.
  • Reply 7 of 36
    ~ufo~~ufo~ Posts: 245member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kenaustus


    Nope. They use WIndows.



    It does mean, however, that your wife and/or girlfriend can check up to see if you've been into porn . . .



    I wish I could read ten posts on this board without stumbling on some reference to pornography.



    am I the only one ? ? ?
  • Reply 8 of 36
    placeboplacebo Posts: 5,767member
    It's a) optional and b) a godsend even if the government is looking at your harddrive and c) you can go and delete all iiterations of a file if you want.
  • Reply 9 of 36
    kim kap solkim kap sol Posts: 2,987member
    In addition to what Placebo mentioned, everyone has the ability to ignore/exclude certain files/folders.



    So if you don't want the past to haunt you if the government/wife/girlfriend/kids decide to take a trip back and time to see what you had on your HD 5 months ago, you've got control.



    edit: argh...I didn't see Kickaha had already anwsered.



    anyways... here's an interesting link http://www.aeroxp.org/board/index.ph...topic=5142&hl=
  • Reply 10 of 36
    kim kap solkim kap sol Posts: 2,987member
    Oh...and anyone who's disappointed by what Steve has shown and anyone who's automatically despairing and hating Leopard (even though Steve specifically said some stuff was top secret) should get a frickin' grip.



    We already 'know' a revamped Finder and a res independent UI is coming even if Steve didn't mention it. If you factor in those two things in plus the stuff I linked to (the stuff that jump out such as "systemwide grammar checking facility, smart quote support, automatic link detection and support for copying and pasting multiple selections" and "the iChat framework allows a developer to add shared content to an active iChat session, for example a video, an image slideshow or even an online multiplayer game" for end-users...and the tons of new developer APIs), you've already got more than your money's worth.
  • Reply 11 of 36
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kenaustus


    Nope. They use WIndows.



    It does mean, however, that your wife and/or girlfriend can check up to see if you've been into porn . . .





    You better be careful what you TM, dudes. Otherwise your girlfriend will kick you back to the future.
  • Reply 12 of 36
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kim kap sol


    Oh...and anyone who's disappointed by what Steve has shown and anyone who's automatically despairing and hating Leopard (even though Steve specifically said some stuff was top secret) should get a frickin' grip.



    Anyone disappointed in the presentation has got to check their brain's chemical balance. The stuff he demo'ed was awesome, if I say so myself.
  • Reply 13 of 36
    My one beef with Time Machine is that it doesn't seem to go forward. I tried to use the beta today (I had a paper due I hadn't written). Apparently it won't let you copy your future paper into the present to turn in. Something about temporal anomalies and grandfather paradox. F***ing lazy-a$$ developers...
  • Reply 14 of 36
    How about storage requirements for that backup in Time Machine? I'm a graphic designer and create a lot of large photoshop documents - I can imagine that TM would fill up even a large external HD fairly quickly as daily versions of projects come and go.
  • Reply 15 of 36
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    That depends on whether they are doing binary diffs or not. They allow only the changes between two versions to be saved, not entire copies.
  • Reply 16 of 36
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kickaha


    That depends on whether they are doing binary diffs or not. They allow only the changes between two versions to be saved, not entire copies.



    It would make more sense to use binary diffs, especially in this situation -- where they said that you will be able to go back to future versions of a document.



    (BTW the future argument was pretty funny Zach)
  • Reply 17 of 36
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kickaha


    That depends on whether they are doing binary diffs or not. They allow only the changes between two versions to be saved, not entire copies.



    Gonna say that they are. Isn't that made easier by a fully-journaled filesystem (HFS+ w/ Journaling in Tiger) Otherwise you couldn't store more than a day or two's backups.
  • Reply 18 of 36
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
    It's not journaling, but snapshotting that would be required, and HFS+ currently doesn't feature. I, too, hope that Time Machine is a new HFS+ snapshot feature plus binary diffs.



    (In a nutshell, journaling keeps track of the fact that changes to the file system happen, and where; not to what in particular those changes are. You cannot restore data with journaling; you can merely keep the file system in a workable state by undoing failed actions.)
  • Reply 19 of 36
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chucker


    (In a nutshell, journaling keeps track of the fact that changes to the file system happen, and where; not to what in particular those changes are. You cannot restore data with journaling; you can merely keep the file system in a workable state by undoing failed actions.)



    Ah, that explains my confusion. I assumed that undoing failed actions implied somehow restoring the file from before I started the action.
  • Reply 20 of 36
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ZachPruckowski


    Gonna say that they are. Isn't that made easier by a fully-journaled filesystem (HFS+ w/ Journaling in Tiger) Otherwise you couldn't store more than a day or two's backups.







    I have an 80GB drive backed up to an 80GB with seven snapshots. No compression.



    Hardlinks are your friend.
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