If you return the unopened FREE InDesign 2, that you get with a dual 867 MDD purchase, to a store for credit after Christmas ? one that gives store credit for Christmas presents without receipts (like Fry's here in California and Oregon), the dual 867 only costs $999.
That's a pretty sweet deal. That's $200 below the retail price. Not the meaningless $50 discount on the other models, which is less than sales tax savings from buying online. The $1099 FP iMac makes the $999 eMac look like a bad deal.
I am really tempted to get one of these to replace my aging Rev.A iMac.
<strong>If you return the unopened FREE InDesign 2, that you get with a dual 867 MDD purchase, to a store for credit after Christmas ? one that gives store credit for Christmas presents without receipts (like Fry's here in California and Oregon), the dual 867 only costs $999.</strong><hr></blockquote>
You're really happy with this type of fraud, aren't you? Are you sure it's not a rebate of some kind?
edit: I just checked and it's a rebate, so your method will not work. Sorry, Charlie.
This is not fraud and there is not a rebate involved. It is a Christmas present being returned for store credit. If you buy the dual 867 this month you will receive your FREE InDesign 2 from Adobe before Christmas. No rebate. No fraud. Honestly playing the system. Invisible loophole. Not fraud.
We are talking about the Design Freely Offer. Not a Rebate.
I have quadruple checked the PDF that has the coupon on it Charlie and you are WRONG WRONG WRONG. It clearly says you will get your "Product" from Adobe in 6 to 8 weeks, Charlie!
In case you are unfamiliar with Fry's return policy after Christmas, it has noting to do with if the product was purchased at Fry's. It is an open invitation by Fry's to be able to return anything they sell unopened after Christmas for store credit. They don't care if you got it free from Apple under this program. You could even tell them this and they would still give you store credit.
<strong>If you return the unopened FREE InDesign 2, that you get with a dual 867 MDD purchase, to a store for credit after Christmas ? one that gives store credit for Christmas presents without receipts (like Fry's here in California and Oregon), the dual 867 only costs $999.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Now you're talkin' my language!
Only problem is that you get a store credit, which still forces you to spend the money. I suspect that SOME places may even refund cash, but that's hard to say.
This really unethical friend of mine purchased an education edition of some expensive software, opened it and burned the disks, then sold the opened but unregistered software on ebay for more than the edu cost. He he, that was a good one.
My school has the low end iMac for $1064 or something like that. The rest are all about $100 less. Individual schools' custom Apple stores tend to have better prices than the generic Apple edu store.
They also have an el cheapo CD-RW eMac sans modem for $977, and a stripped down Quicksilver 867 with no L3 cache for $1201. Interesting.
If I didn't already have a powerful, expandable, used PowerMac G4, I would seriously consider the iMac, but the lack of expandability still bugs me too much. I'll probably stay with used PowerMacs for at least a decade. My dual processor 500 MHz is probably faster than the 700 MHz iMac for a lot of things.
Only problem is that you get a store credit, which still forces you to spend the money. I suspect that SOME places may even refund cash, but that's hard to say.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I doubt anyone will give you cash back. Yes you have to pay full price for the computer (minus tax, shipping plus a free 512MB stick from General Cybernetics in Alabama). But this is a huge consumer electronics, Audio CDs, DVDs, software and home appliance superstore chain. Are you saying that you won't be spending $700 for any consumer electronics, CDs, DVDs, software and home appliances over the life of your new Mac? There's no time limit when you have to spend the credit.
I don't understand why any of you see this as any sort of fraud. I first learned of this savings technique from someone else on this board when the Design Freely offer first appeared. It's a post Christmas way for stores to replenish inventory and retain customer traffic and thus purchases. Are you suspecious people clueless as to how retail stores retain customers?
And you don't have to tell them that Apple and Adobe gave it to you for Christmas. They don't care who gave it to you. It's legitimate merchandise they can resell. The store credit is their Christmas present to you.
i know that $200 was enough for me to convince a long time PC user to give a Mac a shot. he's only using his machine for e-mail and word processing, why put up with the headaches and viruses then?
<strong>i know that $200 was enough for me to convince a long time PC user to give a Mac a shot. he's only using his machine for e-mail and word processing, why put up with the headaches and viruses then?</strong><hr></blockquote>
There are indeed excellent argumens for switching to Mac. It's just a shame that our Windows friends still spam us with their virus-originated messages.
I've decided to be reasonable (aka cheap) and not replace my Rev.A iMac until I can get an entry-level iMac or PowerMac running at 1Ghz plus. I don't need a new iMac. In the meantime, I'll bump the drive on the iMac so that I have enough space for OS X and Classic. No QE, but 10.2 is bound to run better than 10.0, which is the last version of OS X I tried on the Rev.A.
<strong>MacRumors is saying they're about to be discontinued. It's hard to imagine why - perhaps they want the eMac in that price range.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Or maybe they'll have a new iMac model to replace it?
<strong>If you return the unopened FREE InDesign 2, that you get with a dual 867 MDD purchase, to a store for credit after Christmas — one that gives store credit for Christmas presents without receipts (like Fry's here in California and Oregon), the dual 867 only costs $999.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Adobe is not going to send you the RETAIL box version of InDesign, you dope. It'll be in special, promotional packaging that Fry's will NOT take back as a return.
Adobe is not going to send you the RETAIL box version of InDesign, you dope. It'll be in special, promotional packaging that Fry's will NOT take back as a return.</strong><hr></blockquote>
How do you know that? That's not what's pictured on the coupon. And don't call me or anyone else you disagree with on this board or any other board "dope". That is unecessarily rude. I don't think you are right about that. We disagree. Are you a dope for thinking otherwise? I don't think so.
When I got promotional copies of GoLive and LiveMotion from Adobe FREE after Seybold 2001, they were exactly what I would have bought off the shelf. You are not necessarily correct and probably mistaken. My experience tells me they will be retail copies in the retail box. I challenge you to prove they will be otherwise. I have direct imperical experience with Adobe FREE promotinoal copies that were retail copies in the retail box.
I say you're WRONG! And NOT a dope either. Just WRONG WRONG WRONG. They will be returnable as Christmas presents.
<strong>Or maybe they'll have a new iMac model to replace it?</strong><hr></blockquote>Could be, but then why just that model? What can they do to it? If they add a combo drive, it would be the same as the next step up - so why isn't that one reduced in price, too? If they added a larger monitor, why aren't they doing the same to the combo drive model? It just feels more like it's going away than it's being replaced. If it's being upgraded, what's happening with the other models?
I could see a 'bumped out' situation. Don't think so much of THE CDRW model is being upgraded, but there is going to be a higher top end, dropping everything down a price slot.
I imagine that both thoughts are equally valid. . . . sure, there will be no such thing as a CDRW iMac anymore (so it's discontinued), but other stuff will take it's place, with a new, upgraded model on the top (so it's been upgraded).
Maybe it's just clearing inventory before the rumored 17" iMacs come down the line.
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I am really tempted to get one of these to replace my aging Rev.A iMac.
Escher
<strong>If you return the unopened FREE InDesign 2, that you get with a dual 867 MDD purchase, to a store for credit after Christmas ? one that gives store credit for Christmas presents without receipts (like Fry's here in California and Oregon), the dual 867 only costs $999.</strong><hr></blockquote>
You're really happy with this type of fraud, aren't you? Are you sure it's not a rebate of some kind?
edit: I just checked and it's a rebate, so your method will not work. Sorry, Charlie.
[ 10-12-2002: Message edited by: torifile ]</p>
We are talking about the Design Freely Offer. Not a Rebate.
<a href="http://www.apple.com/promo/designfreely/"; target="_blank">http://www.apple.com/promo/designfreely/</a>;
I have quadruple checked the PDF that has the coupon on it Charlie and you are WRONG WRONG WRONG. It clearly says you will get your "Product" from Adobe in 6 to 8 weeks, Charlie!
In case you are unfamiliar with Fry's return policy after Christmas, it has noting to do with if the product was purchased at Fry's. It is an open invitation by Fry's to be able to return anything they sell unopened after Christmas for store credit. They don't care if you got it free from Apple under this program. You could even tell them this and they would still give you store credit.
And there is no FRAUD involved at all.
Charlie!
[ 10-12-2002: Message edited by: Multimedia ]</p>
<strong>But isn't that fraud?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Typically yes, but if you tell them the true story and they still accept it, probably not.
<strong>If you return the unopened FREE InDesign 2, that you get with a dual 867 MDD purchase, to a store for credit after Christmas ? one that gives store credit for Christmas presents without receipts (like Fry's here in California and Oregon), the dual 867 only costs $999.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Now you're talkin' my language!
Only problem is that you get a store credit, which still forces you to spend the money. I suspect that SOME places may even refund cash, but that's hard to say.
This really unethical friend of mine purchased an education edition of some expensive software, opened it and burned the disks, then sold the opened but unregistered software on ebay for more than the edu cost. He he, that was a good one.
They also have an el cheapo CD-RW eMac sans modem for $977, and a stripped down Quicksilver 867 with no L3 cache for $1201. Interesting.
If I didn't already have a powerful, expandable, used PowerMac G4, I would seriously consider the iMac, but the lack of expandability still bugs me too much. I'll probably stay with used PowerMacs for at least a decade. My dual processor 500 MHz is probably faster than the 700 MHz iMac for a lot of things.
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Now you're talkin' my language!
Only problem is that you get a store credit, which still forces you to spend the money. I suspect that SOME places may even refund cash, but that's hard to say.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I doubt anyone will give you cash back. Yes you have to pay full price for the computer (minus tax, shipping plus a free 512MB stick from General Cybernetics in Alabama). But this is a huge consumer electronics, Audio CDs, DVDs, software and home appliance superstore chain. Are you saying that you won't be spending $700 for any consumer electronics, CDs, DVDs, software and home appliances over the life of your new Mac? There's no time limit when you have to spend the credit.
I don't understand why any of you see this as any sort of fraud. I first learned of this savings technique from someone else on this board when the Design Freely offer first appeared. It's a post Christmas way for stores to replenish inventory and retain customer traffic and thus purchases. Are you suspecious people clueless as to how retail stores retain customers?
And you don't have to tell them that Apple and Adobe gave it to you for Christmas. They don't care who gave it to you. It's legitimate merchandise they can resell. The store credit is their Christmas present to you.
[ 10-13-2002: Message edited by: Multimedia ]</p>
<strong>i know that $200 was enough for me to convince a long time PC user to give a Mac a shot. he's only using his machine for e-mail and word processing, why put up with the headaches and viruses then?</strong><hr></blockquote>
There are indeed excellent argumens for switching to Mac. It's just a shame that our Windows friends still spam us with their virus-originated messages.
I've decided to be reasonable (aka cheap) and not replace my Rev.A iMac until I can get an entry-level iMac or PowerMac running at 1Ghz plus. I don't need a new iMac. In the meantime, I'll bump the drive on the iMac so that I have enough space for OS X and Classic. No QE, but 10.2 is bound to run better than 10.0, which is the last version of OS X I tried on the Rev.A.
Escher
<strong>MacRumors is saying they're about to be discontinued. It's hard to imagine why - perhaps they want the eMac in that price range.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Or maybe they'll have a new iMac model to replace it?
<strong>If you return the unopened FREE InDesign 2, that you get with a dual 867 MDD purchase, to a store for credit after Christmas — one that gives store credit for Christmas presents without receipts (like Fry's here in California and Oregon), the dual 867 only costs $999.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Adobe is not going to send you the RETAIL box version of InDesign, you dope. It'll be in special, promotional packaging that Fry's will NOT take back as a return.
<strong>
Adobe is not going to send you the RETAIL box version of InDesign, you dope. It'll be in special, promotional packaging that Fry's will NOT take back as a return.</strong><hr></blockquote>
How do you know that? That's not what's pictured on the coupon. And don't call me or anyone else you disagree with on this board or any other board "dope". That is unecessarily rude. I don't think you are right about that. We disagree. Are you a dope for thinking otherwise? I don't think so.
When I got promotional copies of GoLive and LiveMotion from Adobe FREE after Seybold 2001, they were exactly what I would have bought off the shelf. You are not necessarily correct and probably mistaken. My experience tells me they will be retail copies in the retail box. I challenge you to prove they will be otherwise. I have direct imperical experience with Adobe FREE promotinoal copies that were retail copies in the retail box.
I say you're WRONG! And NOT a dope either. Just WRONG WRONG WRONG. They will be returnable as Christmas presents.
[ 10-15-2002: Message edited by: Multimedia ]</p>
<strong>I say you're WRONG! And NOT a dope either. Just WRONG WRONG WRONG. The will be returnable as Christmas presents.</strong><hr></blockquote>
So have you ordered your DP867, Multimedia?
Escher
<strong>So have you ordered your DP867, Multimedia?</strong><hr></blockquote>
No I haven't ordered one. I don't want one.
[ 10-15-2002: Message edited by: Multimedia ]</p>
<strong>Or maybe they'll have a new iMac model to replace it?</strong><hr></blockquote>Could be, but then why just that model? What can they do to it? If they add a combo drive, it would be the same as the next step up - so why isn't that one reduced in price, too? If they added a larger monitor, why aren't they doing the same to the combo drive model? It just feels more like it's going away than it's being replaced. If it's being upgraded, what's happening with the other models?
I imagine that both thoughts are equally valid. . . . sure, there will be no such thing as a CDRW iMac anymore (so it's discontinued), but other stuff will take it's place, with a new, upgraded model on the top (so it's been upgraded).
Maybe it's just clearing inventory before the rumored 17" iMacs come down the line.