I would assume this is still a very good machine. If you don't need the Superdrive, and the slightly better video card, wouldn't this be a much cheaper deal (if you can find one) than the new 867 model?
the radeon 9000 supports pixel&vertex shaedrs (it's a radeon 8500 on a smaller procfrom what I know), the 7500 does not. so in theory 9000 will be able to run Doom 3 nicely, the 7500 wont.
<strong>dont forget the 800 comes with an airport card and more ram... i bet it goes for about the same price as the new low-end</strong><hr></blockquote>
The 800 would be used vs a brand new 867, the 867 has full 1 year Applecare, RAM is dirt cheap via 18004memory.com, ok, the Airport card is nice, but you'd still need a base station. The Radeon 9000 even at 32 megs is far superior to the Radeon 7500 32 megs.
Looks like yesterday's top model is getting a haircut on the used market to the tune of 50%.
This thread cheers me up, concerning my Ti800 that I've had for... three weeks.
EDIT: The new graphics card, being "far superior" and all, isn't much of an improvement with Quartz Extreme, is it? I'm not a Mac gamer, besides WarCraft, which is hardly intensive...
If you're not a gamer, a Radeon 7500 vs. Radeon 9000 won't make a huge difference. My dual 500 with a standard Radeon Mac Edition 32 MB and 768 MB of RAM gets choppy once in a while when lots of stuff is running, but otherwise it's fine.
When I replace the graphics card (maybe a year or so from now) I may get a used 8500. Apparently those are better than the 9000.
I'm kinda wonderin how much difference the 7500 vs 9000 will be too since I'm not a hardcore gamer but like to do graphics work. I REALLY want a Powerbook, but they are just so expensive and you don't get as much power, even though that's understandable.
Luca- If I were you I'd get a PC Radeon 8500 and flash it. Found one for $81 shipped that is going in my home brew G4.
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Radeon 7500 with 32MB.......
[ 11-06-2002: Message edited by: Leonis ]</p>
How much difference between Radeon Mobility 7500 and 9000 is there? They're both 32mb.
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I'd give it about a week or so before these prices start dropping to be competitive with the $2299 low end 867.
I wouldn't go for any Ti800 unless it was say $2000 or lower.
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I wouldn't go for any Ti800 unless it was say $2000 or lower.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Agree
That's no way to buy the old one at the price higher than the new low-end one....not to mention the new low-end is even faster than the old top-end
<strong>dont forget the 800 comes with an airport card and more ram... i bet it goes for about the same price as the new low-end</strong><hr></blockquote>
The 800 would be used vs a brand new 867, the 867 has full 1 year Applecare, RAM is dirt cheap via 18004memory.com, ok, the Airport card is nice, but you'd still need a base station. The Radeon 9000 even at 32 megs is far superior to the Radeon 7500 32 megs.
Looks like yesterday's top model is getting a haircut on the used market to the tune of 50%.
EDIT: The new graphics card, being "far superior" and all, isn't much of an improvement with Quartz Extreme, is it? I'm not a Mac gamer, besides WarCraft, which is hardly intensive...
[ 11-06-2002: Message edited by: Steve ]</p>
Not sure if this is a good deal. Consider that you get an airport card with it.
By the way, did the old 800's have 256K of L2 cache?
When I replace the graphics card (maybe a year or so from now) I may get a used 8500. Apparently those are better than the 9000.
Luca- If I were you I'd get a PC Radeon 8500 and flash it. Found one for $81 shipped that is going in my home brew G4.