after reading the article i sounds a lot like the iPhone could also be a Palm handheld of sorts. i'm hoping for some kind of text input, like stylus based or some kick ass voice recognition.
does anyone think the iphone will have the click wheel?
I'm not sure if you are serious...but on the off chance you are: Don't ever put all your savings into anything other than a savings bank.
Well, it's a moot point, because without inside info, I couldn't be certain, and with it, I'd be breaking the law. Also, when you have as small an amount of savings as I have, the potential loss would not be that great (barring some sort of terrorist attack during the brief period I was holding the stock).
Does that really mean that Apple would definately call their phone product an iPhone, or that they simply don't want anyone else to be using the name, specifically for any phone like product.
Personally I don't think that iPhone has quite the ring that iPod and iMac do. It seems too obvious, acceptable perhaps for an add-on product, but not something you'd like people to think of as a new, "revolutionary" product.
Hmmm. I was hoping for something a little better than "iPhone".
I like "iPhone." Why? Because it means it won't be an iPod with a phone soldered to it ... and it won't be a phone with an iPod soldered to it. I think it means that it will be a totally different, elegant form and functionality. So "PhonePod" would be going backwards. Something new, the way the iPod is.
So think about Ives and Jobs starting to think of mobile communication from the ground up and that would be an iPhone!
And it sure won't have "mac" in it since it won't run OSX.
I don't think that iPhone will be hardware. I think that it will be one of many applications riding on Apple Hardware. Everyone's expecting dedicated phone hardware. Everyone has made dedicated phone hardware with mobile connectivity. I'm expecting that the iPhone will be software that you call up from within your laptop or desktop or Video iPod or your iTablet and connect with whom you will.
I don't think that iPhone will be hardware. I think that it will be one of many applications riding on Apple Hardware. Everyone's expecting dedicated phone hardware. Everyone has made dedicated phone hardware with mobile connectivity. I'm expecting that the iPhone will be software that you call up from within your laptop or desktop or Video iPod or your iTablet and connect with whom you will.
Kinda like Vonage, but Applesque. And everywhere.
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Your other idea was good, but this one isn't.
you can't have a phone without phone hardware. We aren't talking about a fixed phone. You need a transmitter/receiver at least.
Apple may have a problem registering "iPhone" as a trademark, with just a few minutes googling I found all the following. In addition I am fairly certain I have seem images of a LinkSys device also called "iPhone". As LinkSys are a division of Cisco, they certainly have the resources to fight Apple over it if necessary.
I've been mulling this over for the last week or so before the 'iPhone' TM thing surfaced.
The biggest issue that all companies involved (Apple, M$, Nokia, Motorola, Blackberry et al) have is that the customer at the mo doesn't know what they're buying - is it a cell phone that plays music, is it a PDA that can make calls, is it an MP3 player that also shows movies, oh-and-by-the-way you can call from it....
Apple's trick here is to define the genre of whatever device they're going to release, and stay well away from the 'Phone' moniker. I did a wee 'brainstorm' on it, and came up with 'iTone' (there must be better) as a device (and name) that encompasses ring, music, sms, pictures, movies...OK, it doesn't work with address books, but you get the idea. They need to make the space their own.
I've been mulling this over for the last week or so before the 'iPhone' TM thing surfaced.
The biggest issue that all companies involved (Apple, M$, Nokia, Motorola, Blackberry et al) have is that the customer at the mo doesn't know what they're buying - is it a cell phone that plays music, is it a PDA that can make calls, is it an MP3 player that also shows movies, oh-and-by-the-way you can call from it....
Apple's trick here is to define the genre of whatever device they're going to release, and stay well away from the 'Phone' moniker. I did a wee 'brainstorm' on it, and came up with 'iTone' (there must be better) as a device (and name) that encompasses ring, music, sms, pictures, movies...OK, it doesn't work with address books, but you get the idea. They need to make the space their own.
I think the iPhone is a red-herring.
(Phew! Glad that's over )
Good points, although I don't know if Apple would bother with red-herrings per say. Many were thinking that iPhone was like iTV and just an inside-Apple nickname, but with trademarking it becomes a slightly expensive red-herring.
But your idea is good in that I do think customer confusion is the #1 problem with all new devices, and phones might give people the wrong impression. However I think if Apple came up with an iPhone, that people would think of it as a new device and look at it from a fresh perspectives. And for those who just want a cool phone, the name makes that an easier sell than iDigiTone or something of that nature. In the end the cellphone market is bigger than all the others, so why not leverage that in the name?
Apple may have a problem registering "iPhone" as a trademark, with just a few minutes googling I found all the following. In addition I am fairly certain I have seem images of a LinkSys device also called "iPhone". As LinkSys are a division of Cisco, they certainly have the resources to fight Apple over it if necessary.
you can't have a phone without phone hardware. We aren't talking about a fixed phone. You need a transmitter/receiver at least.
You're right, of course. You do need a transmitter/receiver [chip?] at least. Upon further reflection, an antenna might come in handy too .
My thinking was/is that Apple would upset the WindowsCart if, instead of introducing a device whose primary function is that of a phone, it introduced devices that included embedded phone functionality.
I think that we are on the verge of something Applesque that will be truly revolutionary; greater than all that has come before.
My apologies to you and the AI community. You, Melgross, were absolutely correct. The fault was mine. I should have been clearer in my post.
Apple may have a problem registering "iPhone" as a trademark, with just a few minutes googling I found all the following. In addition I am fairly certain I have seem images of a LinkSys device also called "iPhone". As LinkSys are a division of Cisco, they certainly have the resources to fight Apple over it if necessary.
One thing I was thinking that I haven't seen anyone say yet:
Wouldn't it make sense to have a naming scheme akin to this...
iPod Shuffle
iPod Nano
iPod Video
iPod Phone
Seems to make perfect sense to me. But would there be some dissadvantages to something like this? Seems to me to be simple and clear. People will know what they are buying, yet it will still carry the extremely popular iPod moniker.
You're right, of course. You do need a transmitter/receiver [chip?] at least. Upon further reflection, an antenna might come in handy too .
My thinking was/is that Apple would upset the WindowsCart if, instead of introducing a device whose primary function is that of a phone, it introduced devices that included embedded phone functionality.
I think that we are on the verge of something Applesque that will be truly revolutionary; greater than all that has come before.
My apologies to you and the AI community. You, Melgross, were absolutely correct. The fault was mine. I should have been clearer in my post.
Caffeine free since May 16, 2006.
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Agreed.
So much for PhonePod.
Maybe Apple will still adopt "TelePort" for the iTV. That's way more fun. "i" is out of date.
-Clive
lol that would be an awesome name for the iTV.
I agree with you that 9 games can hardly be called a plethora. However, if you had 9 piñatas, would you say you had a plethora of piñatas?
if i had 9 piñatas that would be a hell of a good party.
with some música and tacos de carne asada and lots of frijoles and cerveza.
Funny: this past weekend I was just having the discussion with some friends at a backyard party that every party should involve one or more pinatas.
I'd normally put the tilde in "pinatas," but windows is shit.
well, that is very true. why WOULDN'T you want a piñata at your parties?
they are colorful, fun, meant to be distroyed and can be a highly entertaining social activity. 8)
does anyone think the iphone will have the click wheel?
I'm not sure if you are serious...but on the off chance you are: Don't ever put all your savings into anything other than a savings bank.
Well, it's a moot point, because without inside info, I couldn't be certain, and with it, I'd be breaking the law. Also, when you have as small an amount of savings as I have, the potential loss would not be that great (barring some sort of terrorist attack during the brief period I was holding the stock).
Apple hurry up. I have my Visa waiting. It'll go great with my new MacBook rev. B and my iTV. Damn I'm so excited! Yay toys!
Personally I don't think that iPhone has quite the ring that iPod and iMac do. It seems too obvious, acceptable perhaps for an add-on product, but not something you'd like people to think of as a new, "revolutionary" product.
Hmmm. I was hoping for something a little better than "iPhone".
I like "iPhone." Why? Because it means it won't be an iPod with a phone soldered to it ... and it won't be a phone with an iPod soldered to it. I think it means that it will be a totally different, elegant form and functionality. So "PhonePod" would be going backwards. Something new, the way the iPod is.
So think about Ives and Jobs starting to think of mobile communication from the ground up and that would be an iPhone!
And it sure won't have "mac" in it since it won't run OSX.
Kinda like Vonage, but Applesque. And everywhere.
V/R,
Aries 1B
I don't think that iPhone will be hardware. I think that it will be one of many applications riding on Apple Hardware. Everyone's expecting dedicated phone hardware. Everyone has made dedicated phone hardware with mobile connectivity. I'm expecting that the iPhone will be software that you call up from within your laptop or desktop or Video iPod or your iTablet and connect with whom you will.
Kinda like Vonage, but Applesque. And everywhere.
V/R,
Aries 1B
Your other idea was good, but this one isn't.
you can't have a phone without phone hardware. We aren't talking about a fixed phone. You need a transmitter/receiver at least.
https://iphone.nuvio.com/html/ - a VoIP provider
http://www.3-speech.com/iphone.html - a Skype handset
http://www.comwave.net/CDN/iPhone/ - a VoIP provider
http://www.mri.co.uk/products/commun...ns/iphoner.htm - a Skype handset
http://www.vida21.com/ViDa_phone_iphone.html - a SIP/H.323 VoIP handset
I've been mulling this over for the last week or so before the 'iPhone' TM thing surfaced.
The biggest issue that all companies involved (Apple, M$, Nokia, Motorola, Blackberry et al) have is that the customer at the mo doesn't know what they're buying - is it a cell phone that plays music, is it a PDA that can make calls, is it an MP3 player that also shows movies, oh-and-by-the-way you can call from it....
Apple's trick here is to define the genre of whatever device they're going to release, and stay well away from the 'Phone' moniker. I did a wee 'brainstorm' on it, and came up with 'iTone' (there must be better) as a device (and name) that encompasses ring, music, sms, pictures, movies...OK, it doesn't work with address books, but you get the idea. They need to make the space their own.
I think the iPhone is a red-herring.
(Phew! Glad that's over
Newbie here, so be kind(ish)..
I've been mulling this over for the last week or so before the 'iPhone' TM thing surfaced.
The biggest issue that all companies involved (Apple, M$, Nokia, Motorola, Blackberry et al) have is that the customer at the mo doesn't know what they're buying - is it a cell phone that plays music, is it a PDA that can make calls, is it an MP3 player that also shows movies, oh-and-by-the-way you can call from it....
Apple's trick here is to define the genre of whatever device they're going to release, and stay well away from the 'Phone' moniker. I did a wee 'brainstorm' on it, and came up with 'iTone' (there must be better) as a device (and name) that encompasses ring, music, sms, pictures, movies...OK, it doesn't work with address books, but you get the idea. They need to make the space their own.
I think the iPhone is a red-herring.
(Phew! Glad that's over
Good points, although I don't know if Apple would bother with red-herrings per say. Many were thinking that iPhone was like iTV and just an inside-Apple nickname, but with trademarking it becomes a slightly expensive red-herring.
But your idea is good in that I do think customer confusion is the #1 problem with all new devices, and phones might give people the wrong impression. However I think if Apple came up with an iPhone, that people would think of it as a new device and look at it from a fresh perspectives. And for those who just want a cool phone, the name makes that an easier sell than iDigiTone or something of that nature. In the end the cellphone market is bigger than all the others, so why not leverage that in the name?
Apple may have a problem registering "iPhone" as a trademark, with just a few minutes googling I found all the following. In addition I am fairly certain I have seem images of a LinkSys device also called "iPhone". As LinkSys are a division of Cisco, they certainly have the resources to fight Apple over it if necessary.
https://iphone.nuvio.com/html/ - a VoIP provider
http://www.3-speech.com/iphone.html - a Skype handset
http://www.comwave.net/CDN/iPhone/ - a VoIP provider
http://www.mri.co.uk/products/commun...ns/iphoner.htm - a Skype handset
http://www.vida21.com/ViDa_phone_iphone.html - a SIP/H.323 VoIP handset
Not sure if it means anything, but Apple have owned the domain www.iphone.org for several years now..
But your idea is good in that I do think customer confusion is the #1 problem with all new devices, and phones might give people the wrong impression.
Reminds me of that commercial for some new phone product (gee, I already forgot its name) where they're pissed-off when people call it a phone.
However I think if Apple came up with an iPhone, that people would think of it as a new device and look at it from a fresh perspectives.
If it were unique enough, e.g. like onyx appears to be.
Your other idea was good, but this one isn't.
you can't have a phone without phone hardware. We aren't talking about a fixed phone. You need a transmitter/receiver at least.
You're right, of course. You do need a transmitter/receiver [chip?] at least. Upon further reflection, an antenna might come in handy too
My thinking was/is that Apple would upset the WindowsCart if, instead of introducing a device whose primary function is that of a phone, it introduced devices that included embedded phone functionality.
I think that we are on the verge of something Applesque that will be truly revolutionary; greater than all that has come before.
My apologies to you and the AI community. You, Melgross, were absolutely correct. The fault was mine. I should have been clearer in my post.
Caffeine free since May 16, 2006.
V/R,
Aries 1B
Apple may have a problem registering "iPhone" as a trademark, with just a few minutes googling I found all the following. In addition I am fairly certain I have seem images of a LinkSys device also called "iPhone". As LinkSys are a division of Cisco, they certainly have the resources to fight Apple over it if necessary.
https://iphone.nuvio.com/html/ - a VoIP provider
http://www.3-speech.com/iphone.html - a Skype handset
http://www.comwave.net/CDN/iPhone/ - a VoIP provider
http://www.mri.co.uk/products/commun...ns/iphoner.htm - a Skype handset
http://www.vida21.com/ViDa_phone_iphone.html - a SIP/H.323 VoIP handset
This is all true, but they may have already planned for some kind of settlements with these companies, or had secret licensing agreements.
Wouldn't it make sense to have a naming scheme akin to this...
iPod Shuffle
iPod Nano
iPod Video
iPod Phone
Seems to make perfect sense to me. But would there be some dissadvantages to something like this? Seems to me to be simple and clear. People will know what they are buying, yet it will still carry the extremely popular iPod moniker.
Hmmmm......
You're right, of course. You do need a transmitter/receiver [chip?] at least. Upon further reflection, an antenna might come in handy too
My thinking was/is that Apple would upset the WindowsCart if, instead of introducing a device whose primary function is that of a phone, it introduced devices that included embedded phone functionality.
I think that we are on the verge of something Applesque that will be truly revolutionary; greater than all that has come before.
My apologies to you and the AI community. You, Melgross, were absolutely correct. The fault was mine. I should have been clearer in my post.
Caffeine free since May 16, 2006.
V/R,
Aries 1B
Don't be too conciliatory, or we won't let you back.