"Leopard will also recognize the first time a new external hard disk drive is connected to a Mac. A system dialog then appears, asking the user if they'd like the enable the drive for use with Leopard's built-in file backup software called Time Machine."
eeeee.... That screams of windows....
"New hardware has been found....do you want do some asinine thing with it that you weren't thinking about before but now you're being forced into - then click teh "yes" dialog box.....
Nah, with Windows you can't go back any further in time
So with porn widgets, immunity to spyware and viruses and the ability to have "Private browsing" in Safari Already, I guess the Mac is now the choice for the porn enthusiast? \
So with porn widgets, immunity to spyware and viruses and the ability to have "Private browsing" in Safari Already, I guess the Mac is now the choice for the porn enthusiast? \
"Leopard will also recognize the first time a new external hard disk drive is connected to a Mac. A system dialog then appears, asking the user if they'd like the enable the drive for use with Leopard's built-in file backup software called Time Machine."
eeeee.... That screams of windows....
"New hardware has been found....do you want do some asinine thing with it that you weren't thinking about before but now you're being forced into - then click teh "yes" dialog box.....
Everytime a new HD connects could be often: friends sharing files, client presentations, data, video content......
And will every USB Hard drive get this message? does this include USB stick "Hard Drives"?
-EDIT: Everything else looks pretty cool though - can't wait. The quickview stuff especially
If you read it, you would see that they did. Screenshot 3 had the dialog box.
If you didn't look, it says, in order: Don't ask again, Ignore, Use Device.
That's pretty clear.
I would also imagine that if you agree to "Use Device" once, it won't bother you again when another drive is connected, as long as the new backup drive is still connected.
The potential benefit (the user not having to travel down System Preferences's Time Machine pane and select the drive, nor having to know about this) is arguably somewhat outweighed by the disadvantage of getting this dialog with hard drives not intended for backups. Yes, I know, you can turn it off.
But it's a question of moderation. One of the things that bug me about using Windows is how it tries to make assumptions for me, and this is one of them ? "you have inserted a DVD, what would you like to do with it?" If the user wants to do something, why not let them actively express this?
This kind of dialog couldn't possibly exhaustively list the possibilities of what the user might have intended to do with the hard drive (yet Windows does try).
That said, this alone doesn't bug me at all. I'm just wary of Apple going further in that direction.
The potential benefit (the user not having to travel down System Preferences's Time Machine pane and select the drive, nor having to know about this) is arguably somewhat outweighed by the disadvantage of getting this dialog with hard drives not intended for backups. Yes, I know, you can turn it off.
But it's a question of moderation. One of the things that bug me about using Windows is how it tries to make assumptions for me, and this is one of them ? "you have inserted a DVD, what would you like to do with it?" If the user wants to do something, why not let them actively express this?
This kind of dialog couldn't possibly exhaustively list the possibilities of what the user might have intended to do with the hard drive (yet Windows does try).
That said, this alone doesn't bug me at all. I'm just wary of Apple going further in that direction.
I understand what you're saying. But, I do think that this is such an important issue, that it had to be brought to the forefront.
And, as I mentioned, possibly Apple will have the dialog turn off once you have a backup attached.
The problem is that most people won't even know about this. I'm wondering how they will react?
But, there are five months left. Apple will possibly change it again. Hopefully, they will make it clearer.
And, also, don't forget that the OS has almost always done this with a drive, or disk it can't read (initialize?), so it isn't entirely unexpected.
The problem is that most people won't even know about this. I'm wondering how they will react?
That's another worry. When Apple introduced Fast User Switching, they did so with a wide, silly and unnecessary menu extra displaying the entire name, causing a whole bunch of hacks to appear to make it a little shorter. They mostly fixed this in 10.4, allowing you to use the shorter name instead, or just an icon.
But the menu doesn't really belong there at all; it belongs right next to the Log Out menu item in the Apple menu.
Why did they place it there? For marketing and newbie purposes: to make people aware of this new feature.
I think that, in the long run, that's a very problematic strategy. It works well with Dock icons, because it's rather subtle there, i.e., new applications and features get their new Dock icon, and if you don't like it, you throw it out, but you can still use it. But conversely, if you don't like the Fast User Switching menu, and throw it out, you can't use it any more at all; once you want to use it again, the menu is back.
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And, also, don't forget that the OS has almost always done this with a drive, or disk it can't read (initialize?), so it isn't entirely unexpected.
But not with a drive it *can* read just fine.
Sure, with an unreadable or unformatted partition, it'll prompt you to format it. And with a recordable CD or DVD, it'll prompt you to handle it in Finder, iTunes, Disk Utility, whathaveyou.
But if you insert a hard drive with data on it, it'll leave you alone and just let you get to work.
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Such HUD windows actually originate from Motion, if I'm not mistaken.
You are mistaken, nah you're not
"Leopard will also recognize the first time a new external hard disk drive is connected to a Mac. A system dialog then appears, asking the user if they'd like the enable the drive for use with Leopard's built-in file backup software called Time Machine."
eeeee.... That screams of windows....
"New hardware has been found....do you want do some asinine thing with it that you weren't thinking about before but now you're being forced into - then click teh "yes" dialog box.....
Nah, with Windows you can't go back any further in time
Keep in mind: "Don't show this message again"
So with porn widgets, immunity to spyware and viruses and the ability to have "Private browsing" in Safari Already, I guess the Mac is now the choice for the porn enthusiast?
You forgot the Gisele Buendchen ads.
I hate that girly colored "spaces" changer, black in the new aqua.
Haven't you heard? Black is the new pink.
Anyone know where I can get that leopard wallpaper in some of the screens?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/keffrin/275943932/
Anyone know where I can get that leopard wallpaper in some of the screens?
Ahem, desktop.
"Leopard will also recognize the first time a new external hard disk drive is connected to a Mac. A system dialog then appears, asking the user if they'd like the enable the drive for use with Leopard's built-in file backup software called Time Machine."
eeeee.... That screams of windows....
"New hardware has been found....do you want do some asinine thing with it that you weren't thinking about before but now you're being forced into - then click teh "yes" dialog box.....
Not quite. You can ease out of it quickly.
Yeah, the current dialog seems obnoxious.
In what way?
Haven't you heard? Black is the new pink.
O' Reily?
I hear you, but I'm not so sure I agree
Everytime a new HD connects could be often: friends sharing files, client presentations, data, video content......
And will every USB Hard drive get this message? does this include USB stick "Hard Drives"?
-EDIT: Everything else looks pretty cool though - can't wait. The quickview stuff especially
If you read it, you would see that they did. Screenshot 3 had the dialog box.
If you didn't look, it says, in order: Don't ask again, Ignore, Use Device.
That's pretty clear.
I would also imagine that if you agree to "Use Device" once, it won't bother you again when another drive is connected, as long as the new backup drive is still connected.
In what way?
The potential benefit (the user not having to travel down System Preferences's Time Machine pane and select the drive, nor having to know about this) is arguably somewhat outweighed by the disadvantage of getting this dialog with hard drives not intended for backups. Yes, I know, you can turn it off.
But it's a question of moderation. One of the things that bug me about using Windows is how it tries to make assumptions for me, and this is one of them ? "you have inserted a DVD, what would you like to do with it?" If the user wants to do something, why not let them actively express this?
This kind of dialog couldn't possibly exhaustively list the possibilities of what the user might have intended to do with the hard drive (yet Windows does try).
That said, this alone doesn't bug me at all. I'm just wary of Apple going further in that direction.
The potential benefit (the user not having to travel down System Preferences's Time Machine pane and select the drive, nor having to know about this) is arguably somewhat outweighed by the disadvantage of getting this dialog with hard drives not intended for backups. Yes, I know, you can turn it off.
But it's a question of moderation. One of the things that bug me about using Windows is how it tries to make assumptions for me, and this is one of them ? "you have inserted a DVD, what would you like to do with it?" If the user wants to do something, why not let them actively express this?
This kind of dialog couldn't possibly exhaustively list the possibilities of what the user might have intended to do with the hard drive (yet Windows does try).
That said, this alone doesn't bug me at all. I'm just wary of Apple going further in that direction.
I understand what you're saying. But, I do think that this is such an important issue, that it had to be brought to the forefront.
And, as I mentioned, possibly Apple will have the dialog turn off once you have a backup attached.
The problem is that most people won't even know about this. I'm wondering how they will react?
But, there are five months left. Apple will possibly change it again. Hopefully, they will make it clearer.
And, also, don't forget that the OS has almost always done this with a drive, or disk it can't read (initialize?), so it isn't entirely unexpected.
The problem is that most people won't even know about this. I'm wondering how they will react?
That's another worry. When Apple introduced Fast User Switching, they did so with a wide, silly and unnecessary menu extra displaying the entire name, causing a whole bunch of hacks to appear to make it a little shorter. They mostly fixed this in 10.4, allowing you to use the shorter name instead, or just an icon.
But the menu doesn't really belong there at all; it belongs right next to the Log Out menu item in the Apple menu.
Why did they place it there? For marketing and newbie purposes: to make people aware of this new feature.
I think that, in the long run, that's a very problematic strategy. It works well with Dock icons, because it's rather subtle there, i.e., new applications and features get their new Dock icon, and if you don't like it, you throw it out, but you can still use it. But conversely, if you don't like the Fast User Switching menu, and throw it out, you can't use it any more at all; once you want to use it again, the menu is back.
And, also, don't forget that the OS has almost always done this with a drive, or disk it can't read (initialize?), so it isn't entirely unexpected.
But not with a drive it *can* read just fine.
Sure, with an unreadable or unformatted partition, it'll prompt you to format it. And with a recordable CD or DVD, it'll prompt you to handle it in Finder, iTunes, Disk Utility, whathaveyou.
But if you insert a hard drive with data on it, it'll leave you alone and just let you get to work.
It does seem like a few too many views to me though
1. Icon preview
2. Quickview
3. Preview.app
4. The actual program you open the file in
Also maybe Quickview should activate as a mouseover not as a menu item, ala Vista.