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jbishop1039 said:

These lawsuits are getting a bit ridiculous. I'm sure eventually Apple will get sued for making the  Car with 4 wheels and a motor. 

Apple themselves is very guilty of this: For example, rounded corners, Click to call, the infamous 'realtime API' debacle, suing someone because they sued them... and of course, stealing the swipe-to-unlock feature then suing people who use it. 

Apple's a huge patent troll. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if Apple tries to sue google over driverless cars.

SpamSandwich said:

Dumbasses.

Did either the idiots at the law firm or their alleged clients read Apple's Warranty information? It's pretty clear about what is and isn't allowed (bolded emphasis mine). 

This Warranty does not apply: (a) to consumable parts, such as batteries or protective coatings that are designed to diminish over time, unless failure has occurred due to a defect in materials or workmanship; (b) to cosmetic damage, including but not limited to scratches, dents and broken plastic on ports unless failure has occurred due to a defect in materials or workmanship; (c) to damage caused by use with a third party component or product that does not meet the Apple Product’s specifications (Apple Product specifications are available at www.apple.com under the technical specifications for each product and also available in stores); (d) to damage caused by accident, abuse, misuse, fire, earthquake or other external cause; (e) to damage caused by operating the Apple Product outside Apple’s published guidelines; (f) to damage caused by service (including upgrades and expansions) performed by anyone who is not a representative of Apple or an Apple Authorized Service Provider (“AASP”); (g) to an Apple Product that has been modified to alter functionality or capability without the written permission of Apple; (h) to defects caused by normal wear and tear or otherwise due to the normal aging of the Apple Product; (i) if any serial number has been removed or defaced from the Apple Product; or (j) if Apple receives information from relevant public authorities that the product has been stolen or if you are unable to deactivate passcode-enabled or other security measures designed to prevent unauthorized access to the Apple Product, and you cannot prove in any way that you are the authorized user of the product (eg. by presenting proof of purchase).

http://www.apple.com/legal/warranty/products/ios-warranty-document-us.html

Did you read the same warranty document's opening paragraphs?

HOW CONSUMER LAW RELATES TO THIS WARRANTY

THIS WARRANTY GIVES YOU SPECIFIC LEGAL RIGHTS, AND YOU MAY HAVE OTHER RIGHTS THAT VARY FROM STATE TO STATE (OR BY COUNTRY OR PROVINCE). OTHER THAN AS PERMITTED BY LAW, APPLE DOES NOT EXCLUDE, LIMIT OR SUSPEND OTHER RIGHTS YOU MAY HAVE, INCLUDING THOSE THAT MAY ARISE FROM THE NONCONFORMITY OF A SALES CONTRACT. FOR A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF YOUR RIGHTS YOU SHOULD CONSULT THE LAWS OF YOUR COUNTRY, PROVINCE OR STATE.

WARRANTY LIMITATIONS SUBJECT TO CONSUMER LAW

TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW, THIS WARRANTY AND THE REMEDIES SET FORTH ARE EXCLUSIVE AND IN LIEU OF ALL OTHER WARRANTIES, REMEDIES AND CONDITIONS, WHETHER ORAL, WRITTEN, STATUTORY, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED. APPLE DISCLAIMS ALL STATUTORY AND IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION, WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND WARRANTIES AGAINST HIDDEN OR LATENT DEFECTS, TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW. IN SO FAR AS SUCH WARRANTIES CANNOT BE DISCLAIMED, APPLE LIMITS THE DURATION AND REMEDIES OF SUCH WARRANTIES TO THE DURATION OF THIS EXPRESS WARRANTY AND, AT APPLE'S OPTION, THE REPAIR OR REPLACEMENT SERVICES DESCRIBED BELOW. SOME STATES (COUNTRIES AND PROVINCES) DO NOT ALLOW LIMITATIONS ON HOW LONG AN IMPLIED WARRANTY (OR CONDITION) MAY LAST, SO THE LIMITATION DESCRIBED ABOVE MAY NOT APPLY TO YOU.

I don't know about across US, but a company willfully disabling a device - for security reasons or otherwise - just wouldn't fly in many countries.

It's frightening to see so many people willing to sacrifice all their consumer rights just so that they can elevate their brand loyalty and corporate allegiances further. I've seen some pretty questionable things posted on this site before in nothing but the name of elevating Apple onto some kind of pedestal, but this is something else. I really do wonder how many people here are posting ironically, or are they posting what they genuinely believe?

If I buy a phone, from any company, or product or whatever, it is mine. It is not Apple's to decide what my interests are, in the name of security or otherwise. It's my phone, and I can do what the hell I damn well please with it. If Apple decides that isn't the case, then it's their duty to refund me, or best case scenario - educate me, as a consumer, and tell me options. See similar cases: Sony removing Linux support from the PS3 for "security", intel being able to brick laptops for "safety" or more recently, Microsoft forcing auto-updates in windows 10 for "security". This is no different.

I don't care for what reason Apple is doing it, claiming it's for security or some hidden agenda, right or wrong, it is not their place to decide what's best for people who purchase their devices, that's up to the users - however misinformed they may be. We don't live in a corporate oligarchy, we live in a free country and Apple getting away with this bullshit is just taking us further down the road doing nothing but harming consumer interests.

evilution said:

If you are one of the 30 people who have genuinely charged and listened to music at the same time, buy the dongle.

This honestly sounds like you are saying "Well, I don't PERSONALLY do it, therefor NO ONE does"

Have you ever travelled? Ever taking a multi-leg flight or a long car journey? Of course you'll have one end in the charger, one end plugged into headphones. Heck even just driving to work I oftentimes put the charger and the audio jack in. It's a pretty major inconvenience. And wireless headphones, whilst cool and all, are the biggest pain in the butt going. it's just one more thing that needs charged unnecessarily.