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  • Apple acknowledges 'Error 53' glitch, says it's part of Touch ID security [u]

    More crap from our resident troll.

    First off, what kind of "reporter" only has a single phone? Especially when covering something as critical as the refugee crisis? Does he also travel with a single camera and lens, and if that craps out he can't complete his assignment?

    Second, as someone else pointed out, a quick search shows there are lots of places in Macedonia where you can buy a new iPhone if you needed one. There is also an Apple authorized repair provider there as well. I find it hilarious that a "professional" like him acts like a little girl when his iPhone gets damaged and reacts as if he's 1,000 miles from nowhere in a desert somewhere.


    But the worst is this little gem of yours: "Apple need to have a fail-safe approach to this that gives the legitimate owner of the phone a way to continue to use it and to access their data." Absolute garbage.

    Does this also apply to someone who loses the keys to their car? How dare manufacturers leave a motorist stranded in the middle of the night with no way to get home, simply because the car doesn't have a "fail-safe" backup way for them to drive their car. I'm the legitimate owner of the car, and I better be able to drive it even if I'm stupid.

    Having a "fail-safe" is another way to say "lower the security for everyone so the rare few who have an issue aren't left with a non-functioning device". Kinda sounds like the government wanting a back door into Apple encryption and have Apple lower the security for hundreds of millions of users on the off chance it "might" help law enforcement with a few cases.
    Yes he should've been prepaired better. But you can't compare losing your keys with an error that shuts down your phone without warning you. That's a seriously bad analogy. Apple should've warned customers before or given them the chance to unlock the phone later. Taking it to your comparison it's like you lose sour car's keys and then your car will be locked forever and you have to buy a new car.
    cnocbui
  • Apple acknowledges 'Error 53' glitch, says it's part of Touch ID security [u]


    tenly said:

    No, still a stupid analogy that only proves you know nothing about the secure enclave and how it works.

    The secure enclave is used for device encryption, your passcode, your fingerprint, access controls lists (things like application passwords and private keys).

    You seem to think it's only used for Touch ID, and there's nothing to worry about if a piece of hardware that works with the secure enclave has been swapped out. And then have the nerve to tell others they are delusional or morons.

    Seems pretty clear who the "delusional moron" is.
    I've explained it to you twice.  It's not my job to make you understand why you're wrong.  In your latest reply you're trying to change the question to one that makes you less wrong but the extra detail you provide has nothing to do with my analogy or this discussion.

    I don't know exactly what conversation you are trying to participate in, but the conversation that I'm in is about the error that is generated when a third party replacement of the home button/Touch ID sensor take place - the secure enclave is NOT being replaced.  The secure enclave and everything in it remains intact, but the new Touch ID sensor is not able to communicate with it because the technician is unable to initialize it like Apple does.

    In the above case, the only thing that need fail is Touch ID authentication - for anything - logins, Apple Pay, app unlocks, etc.  Touch ID would be completely unusable - but every other feature and function within the phone - can and should continue to operate - 100% SECURELY - using just your password/passcode.  This includes device encryption, passcodes, etc.  Everything except Touch ID and fingerprint data.  

    Touch ID is an OPTIONAL feature that can be turned on and off.  After a replacement of the sensor - until the new sensor is properly initialized by Apple - the phone CAN AND SHOULD FUNCTION AS IF TOUCH ID WERE SIMPLY TURNED OFF in settings.

    Its frustrating trying to educate you.  Two things are obvious.  One is that you think you're right - and the other is that you're not.  I've given up trying to show you exactly where and why you're wrong.  At this point I'm only replying so that the great many forum readers who are smarter than you will understand why you're wrong - although to be honest - most of them probably understood after reading my initial analogy - or even before I posted it.

    If you still don't get it - I'm sorry, I can't make it any clearer.  You'll just have to continue forward in life remaininghl ignorant of how this stuff actually works.
    Agree turning off all functions of the touch ID would've been enough of course. But apple treats there customers like the last crap since steve jobs died. Poor steve he'd be crying seeing how the current management is destroying his dream of this unique company step by step.