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appleinsideruser said:

dee_dee said:

appleinsideruser said:

dee_dee said:

CheeseFreeze said:

AppleZulu said:

So this is where we see letting third-party vendors have that level of access to the OS in order to provide security becomes a vulnerability in itself. 

Nonsense. Good standards don’t let third parties to operate “on an OS level” since that access is not needed to begin with. In case of Apple and Microsoft they provide APIs and frameworks that other vendors can use. They stay within these boundaries (or there wouldn’t be a standard).

Also, you could argue the very opposite. Letting a few tech giants in control over protocols used world-wide means that when things go bad, everything goes bad. 

You might not understand how antivirus work, but kernel access is needed for them to function.  

Not in some OSes you don't: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/endpointsecurity/monitoring_system_events_with_endpoint_security

Read more at Writing a File Monitor with Apple's Endpoint Security Framework over at Objective-See

You proved my point.  Antivirus software doesn’t just monitor “files that change” - any file on the computer, including OS files need to be monitored.  You think viruses just play around in “My Docunents” folder ??  

Think about it - if a virus can shut down that API then your antivirus software would be rendered useless. 

The point is that an application can do what’s needed, without being in a privileged position to screw the kernel. Apple provides similar security tools to monitor processes and the network too: https://objective-see.org/products/utilities.html

9secondkox2 said:

macdaddy1944 said:

Who cares. This is such a waste of bandwidth

Let’s be real. We all do. 

Just about everyone is a heavy smartphone user and the ui heavily impacts our day.