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It sounds like you’d be a candidate for a Mac Mini Pro. The first M1 Mini versus the first M1 MBP (13”) was and still is a $600 base price difference. So if Marvin’s guess is right that a $2599 M1 Pro MBP with 32/1TB would meet your needs, then I’d expect a hypothetical Mini Pro to be about $1999 for that same configuration.
The problem is, it’s unknown if Apple will go there. I’ve argued elsewhere that they won’t, but you never know. An event that rolls out both a new iMac XDR and a new Mini at the same time isn’t terribly far-fetched. Like Marvin says, there’s a decent chance we will know by March. Then the new Mac Pro and the new Pro Display XDR, along with a possible iMac Pro XDR, would come in June, exactly two years after the Apple Silicon launch…
I haven’t read the order, but obviously this isn’t about links to outside payments inside the app — it’s about how Apple then collects its cut of those payments, which the judge ruled they can collect. So a whole system for doing that has to be put in place. It’s not a small thing — it’s a major change to how Apple collects its share of IAPs.Apple basically has to create a set of requirements that allow them to audit payments originating inside the app. Surely they will require compliance with those requirements for an app to be approved.That said, it’s not exactly rocket science. Apple can do that in a timely manner. So I get the judge’s criticism. But I also think it’s likely the appeal to the higher court will succeed, on the grounds that it will be costly for Apple to implement and then roll back a change like that if they win their appeal.
blastdoor said:tenthousandthings said:I posted something like this in the Air thread as well. I think we’ll see this Mac Pro before the M2 comes out. There will be four release/refresh stages for macOS devices:
 Each generation of Macintosh Silicon will appear first in the MacBook Air and the Mac Mini. Both will be silent masterpieces of technology with minuscule failure rates, with no fan, utterly reliable.
 Next come the iMac and the MacBook, with the colors and the same silicon as the Air and Mini. These are consumer Macs, with lower prices and higher failure rates.
 Then the MacBook Pro gets its refresh with the new Pro and Max configurations.
 Finally, the iMac Pro and the Mac Pro complete the cycle, with multiple dies and GPU advances. Depending on what they do with the Mac Pro, this stage could be split into two phases.
All of this takes place over a cycle of about 18 months, with some flexibility built into it. Apple Silicon will not make promises it can't keep. It won't be like clockwork, and it won't be an annual cycle. macOS will stay on an annual cycle, because it has to keep up with more than just changes in the M series, but that doesn't mean the hardware will.
I suspect the timeline for the first generation was disrupted a bit by COVID. The fact that it's over a year since the M1 was introduced and we still likely haven't seen the full lineup (waiting now for the multi-die Pro desktop version) is hopefully going to be an anomaly. Hopefully the 'normal' pattern will be that the full lineup is refreshed in less than 12 months.Maybe it’s just my age showing, but I have a really hard time imagining a 12-month refresh cycle for Mac hardware, even if the pandemic didn’t exist. I think Intel got itself into serious trouble with its inflexible, clockwork model as the realities of science collided with their marketing. Apple had a front-row seat for that…
DangDave said:tenthousandthings said:The details of this will be telling. If it works out and Apple is able to still take a competitive cut of those revenues, it will become the norm worldwide very quickly. As I understand it, the law only applies to in-app payments. So it’s got nothing to do with the App Store.
Let’s say the code for in-app payments requires an Apple API that tracks the payments, regardless of who is processing them, and Apple starts billing payment processing separately from its slice of the pie. So then it’s just pay me now or pay me later. How many developers are going to bother? Only those who benefit from collecting information about their customers. Finally, and this is an important detail — Can Apple require developers to give users the option of using Apple’s payment processing? Can users be forced to expose their data?
Kind of looks like the 2019 Mac Pro timeframe, with a WWDC announcement and availability in “Fall 2019” (the actual release came in December)… If that worked well for them, it makes sense they would repeat it.
I think it’s exciting this leaker also says iMac Pro at the same time. That won’t be the same as the 27-inch iMac XDR that is rumored for this Spring.
corrections said:Phone sales may have some impact on PC demand, but it’s pretty clear that virtually every tablet sold kills a PC sale. Look at PC sales data next to the timeline of iPad sales [...]
If a Chromebook is a PC then an iPad is a PC.
It hardly makes sense to imagine them selling a 5K Thunderbolt 3 external display with an integrated graphics card without offering one without the graphics card. Mainly due to the Mac Pro, not to mention the iMac 5K, and the coming Thunderbolt 3 versions of each.
So I would look for a Thunderbolt 3 "Retina" 5K Display with an optional integrated graphics card for use with MacBook Pros and iPad Pros.