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canukstorm said:

anantksundaram said:

Nothing says this will be an either/or. There could well be an iPhone 8, with the 7s being the 2nd-tier offering. Apple has done something similar in the past.

Agreed. I'd be surprised if the only thing on the iPhone docket for next year is an SoC update and a new color.  Apple would get crucified in terms of mindshare if that's all they did for next year. I'm more inclined to think that Apple will pull a page out of its Watch playbook: 1) It will update the iPhone 7 / 7 Plus to the A11 SoC processor and 2) There will be a brand new iPhone (iPhone 8?) with completely new design, OLED, wireless charging, etc.

Probably no iPhone 8 in 2017: http://daringfireball.net/2016/10/iphone_edition

PabloTresUnoSeis said:

When you run out of ideas..

iPhone 7 is essentially an iPhone 6sS.

And 7s will be a 6sSs  

koolidge54 said:

The high price of an Apple  iPhone is a major factor in a lot of people upgrading to Apple hardware.

High price could be justified by real innovation (not by gimmicky 3d touch)

iPhone 7 major "features":
- No antenna lines
- No ugly camera bump

Pretty novel approach to innovation, let's break something first, then fix it with pride.

Even xiaomi can now make bezel free phones nowadays. Would be very valuable for those who prefer smaller form factors. Apple seems to be stuck in 2007.

loekf said:

No competition for HomeKit, because HomeKit is a joke. It's a missed opportunity for Apple. 

antonpablo said:

Apple should come out with a Siri/HomeKit device like the Echo and Google's.. Or add this capability to the next gen AppleTV..

techprod1gy said:

I really feel like Apple has simply dropped the ball. 

And who do you think to blame?
Tim should be out.

IMO, if Apple is physically capable of doing something to help, they should do it.
Oh, and Apple should make devices uncrackable to themselves in the first place, otherwise it is just security through obscurity. 

You see, Tim, all it takes to return a company to growth is just making something best in business for a consumer: namely the camera (http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Samsung-Galaxy-S7-Edge-Mobile-Review-A-new-champion) and the screen: (http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S7_ShootOut_1.htm#Conclusion: "the Galaxy S7 becomes the Best Performing Smartphone Display that we have ever tested").

When was the last time iPhone had something best in the industry? 
2010, iPhone 4 - Retina display
2013, iPhone 5s - Touch ID

And when do you say are going to upgrade the screen? 2018?
Tim, with all respect you should leave.

"Built for the future" ???

Compact phones are great, and internal components matter, but not in a device with 4" display. As a matter of fact iPhone SE has absolutely worse screen to body ratio in the industry - a little over 60%