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Did Sir Johnny design the tables? In either case - her contributions to date, if any, are a joke in light of the $70,000,000 she was paid to join.
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What in the world are you rambling on about? I am talking about MY ROI - billions squandered by Apple on buybacks have done virtually zip for my ROI compared to what my pro rated value of a huge special dividend would be. Do you even own a sign…
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Ummm - speculators can't BUY AAPL shares unless someone (knowing the dividend $$ on the way) is willing to sell them and lose the dividend.
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Quote: Originally Posted by thompr Go look up how dividend payouts are implemented. Then come back enlightened, and you will see my point. What is you point? I have received many AAPL dividend payments (small % though they are) over the…
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Quote: Originally Posted by anantksundaram If you want cash on your AAPL, you have the choice to sell a portion of your holdings or you can write options. If I don't want cash (and don't like paying taxes at the income tax rate) I don't have …
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Quote: Originally Posted by thompr The problem with your logic is the last 5 words. How do you know this? On ex-div day, the share price is instantly lowered by the amount $16.67/share so that everyone who dove in for the dividend is at net …
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Quote: Originally Posted by anantksundaram As a poster above points out, you don't know what the counter-factual would have been. But as I pointed out - I KNOW I would have a lot more cash in my account. The real value of AAPL could be up …
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Quote: Originally Posted by thompr You don't know what the share price would have been today if AAPL had not done the buybacks. That would be the right thing to compare to, but it is of course unavailable. The bottom line is that you can't …
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Bravadu - no, not that person As to the topic - I don't think so - the concept of buybacks does not work - period. Fewer shares on the market boosts eps and thus share price. Has not worked with over $100,000,000,000 wasted on buybacks and sha…
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Nice theory - not working out for shareholders. STOP wasting $$$$ on buybacks and return those $$$ DIRECTLY to the shareholders. Do the math.
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How can you even suggest that? The buybacks have been a waste of shareholder $$$ - total waste. Do the math for yourself: You hold 2,000 shares. Apple takes the same $100,000,000,000 divided by the roughly 6,000,000,000 shares = $16.67/share.…
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Your response is setting up a false and limited choice. The main thrust is AAPL is not performing from an investors (not the same as a trader) perspective for the past 3 years. No one has suggested that they stop work on the ecosystem or go into…
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Really high performing investors pick the game changing winners and have fantastic returns. AAPL has been that investment for me for many years - not so lately under Cook.
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You are making my point - in Cook's case waaaaaaay more is less. He is not working the investor side of his job. And, innovation is being viewed as a missing component under Cook.
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Not Firephone - web services. My point is that he works Wall Street very effectively with little earnings. Drones - stock goes up. OTOH, Cook & Boys have $$$$ pouring in and can't generate any confidence about future earnings.
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He should do what Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk are doing - inspiring Wall Street with their vision and potential. It is Cook's job to figure it out.
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Bob - whay can't it go on? Been over 3 years with no end in sight. Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk have little or no profits - but as executive visionaries and leaders they know how to work Wall Street. Tim & Company spend too much time on their s…
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sog & Rogifan - spot on. I finally broke down and joined AI to support your views. I have been bitching about Apple's poor stock performance on MR. I'm certain that some manipulation is at play. However, I think Cook and his team have done …