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That would be - some android based feature phone sold in India or China ?
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Go "all the way" - and obtain a final and clear ruling that's serves as a clear precedent for any future claims. Heck, with all the patents Apple has filed over the past few years it would be in their best interests to do so.
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gatorguy wrote: » I hope you aren't misreading my posts as an endorsement of the status quo. With the money and businesses involved things cannot be allowed to continue as is, and clarification from the courts will be necessary. oh no definitel…
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umm - from startups that may have insight into new applications of tech that can't afford to develop knowing they will have a Swedish giant riding alongside in their wallet. As to specifics - I can't comment because if I knew I would be flat out in…
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tmay wrote: » That's called patent exhaustion, and if you see the link to Ericsson's IP rate posted by Gatorguy, you will notice the author commenting on how Ericsson makes sure that every user from the top down is licensed such that patent exhaus…
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tmay wrote: » Hence why Apple wisely passed up arbitration. From IEEE's standpoint, IP based on the smallest salable device, and at an embedded cost, would be the best path. That would possibly spur whole new classes of connected devices especi…
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@GG - This discussion has been a good one and it has served to highlight the differing arguments. There's been no clear consensus here other than some see a need for change and others want the status quo to remain. No doubt where I stand. There's a…
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@TT - I'm still wiping the tears from my eyes from laughter. Hilarious. Thank you for your suggestion and were that possible on an Internet discussion board I might entertain the notion if I weren't married, the recipient was female, somewhat comely…
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@ spock1234 Way to go ! ????
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cnocbui wrote: » Apple is one of the greediest companies on the planet. Greed seems to work for them. Want that WiFi chip you paid for in you Macbook activated to N class - pay us extra. Want to sell our phones - give us a percentage of your …
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tooltalk wrote: » or more like a company in Cupertino claiming royalties just because they got rectangles and rounded corners. ahem. lmao - v funny I think tmay has dealt with that little jab.
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dasanman69 wrote: » What are they getting in the present from the other manufacturers? I've got no idea - but as shompa pointed out manufacturers are paying already to Qualcomm et al. as component suppliers. Ericssons already earning through t…
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gatorguy wrote: » Ericssons' mobile SEP's have always been tied to the wholesale cost of the device. That's their royalty basis just as it is /was with Nokia, Qualcomm, Alcatel, Motorola and many others. Apple's previous licensing deal with Erics…
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Thanks for some history and great insight, shompa !
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gatorguy wrote: » If taken to the extreme perhaps, but that's not what's going on. Perhaps not in your view. A claim for royalties across the whole device ? It sure looks that way to me.
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oh yea - ugly and messy as hell. Agreed.
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gatorguy wrote: » It's always worked until quite recently and still is the prevailing method of determining royalties in wireless standards. I'd expect in Apple's case it will be "ya win some ya lose some" for quite while. And it was probably o…
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It makes those companies position quite clear though :-) They're going to shoot for the moon if the courts will let them. But yes, previously adhered to international standards are consigned to the waste bin. Very murky if they head down that path.
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Anyone rember this ? [IMG ALT=""]http://forums.appleinsider.com/content/type/61/id/58836/width/350/height/700[/IMG] Way ahead of its time back on Old Mac OS 8 or 8.5. Sometime around there. Overly complicated and difficult but the vision was there …
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lmao, jungmark Denial of profit stream claim. Anti competiveness Flawgic