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[quote]Originally posted by jimmac: Well then your comments have no substance or meaning... Oh no! That's going to cause many a sleepless night. [quote]... and people should consider this when reading your posts in the future. I'm sur…
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[quote]Originally posted by jimmac: I don't find it hard to believe at all that you have no defense... Then don't. I don't need to defend myself.
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[quote]Originally posted by Chinney: In the end, I am far more interested in what people believe now. Trent Lott has failed this test. I am not sure that Senator Byrd has. I'm sure Byrd's views have changed with time. He is, after all, no lo…
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[quote]Originally posted by Chinney: Sorry Spaceman, but this does not indicate a consistent approach. To my knowledge, Byrd has not made any recent statements defending or praising past racist attitudes. Trent Lott did. To have been consisten…
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[quote]Originally posted by jimmac: Well I guess that's mate. You couldn't provide any substance to counter any of the arguments pertaining to the topic. Debate like chess is based on logic and has certain rules you have to adhere to... There …
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[quote]Originally posted by jimmac: You keep this up and it'll be mate... Right. Except from my first post I've made it abundantly clear that I choose not to play the game. But don't let that disturb your fantasy life.
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[quote]Originally posted by jimmac: The facts remain. Yep, they do. As desperately as you might want me to care about what Bobby Byrd thinks. I don't.
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[quote]Originally posted by jimmac: See, a very weak argument. So quit blowing smoke already. You don't believe me so that makes my argument weak? But you don't even care whether what I've written is true or not!
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[quote]Originally posted by jimmac: ... By the way he's not the only one saying these things. Fine. I really didn't doubt this. I've argued about these issues for months now. And there are a lot of people who don't agree with my arguments but…
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[quote]Originally posted by jimmac: Well I can't say I give much credence... Oh well. You'll choose to believe what you choose to believe - true or not.
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[quote]Originally posted by jimmac: What's so hard for you to get? It's off topic garbage. Too bad for you then. I guess Byrd is the only person saying these things? You can't come up with someone I respect?
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[quote]Originally posted by bunge: This blind faith you exhibit is one that I don't share. Republican Party Line. Nothing else. Sad really. It's just blind faith to discount what Robert Byrd has to say? Yeah, that must be it.
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[quote]Originally posted by jimmac: Even if that's true... It is true. Not that such a technicality as the truth would worry you too much. [quote]... what's that got to do with Bush or the present situation? What's so hard for you to …
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[quote]Originally posted by jimmac: ... just because someone made a mistake a long time ago doesn't mean he can't have a point now.... If it's so irrelevant why did Byrd lie about the level of his involvement in the KKK when he first ran for C…
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[quote]Originally posted by jimmac: Just replying in kind. No, you weren't. Byrd really was a member of the KKK. Your little bit of charcter assassination suggested that Scott was too. What Scott said was true. What you suggested, howev…
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[quote]Originally posted by pfflam: ... if there were racialist ideas in the speech then I would think that it mattered . . . but now it does not Racists often talk about matters not related to racial matters. So what? I get to choose who I li…
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[quote]Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah: Well, again, this is my point. The next time I'm discussing one of George Bush's speeches I'll be sure to reference his cocaine abuse, driving offences and alcoholism. They "reflect negatively on hi…
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[quote]Originally posted by bunge: Even if that were true, it would have nothing to do with the validity of his speech. You know it, groverat knows it, scott knows it, everyone here knows it. Even if that were true? Come on. Everyone (even yo…
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[quote]Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah: My point wasn't that alcoholism and racism are similar but that by latching on something irrelevant to the guy's speech you were finding a handy 'out' to avoid discussing its substance. Byrd's past …
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[quote]Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah: And George W. is a recovering coke head and alcoholic. That reflects on his appetites. Is that off topic? Bush didn't make this speech. Interesting how you equate being an alcoholic with belonging t…