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Quote: Originally Posted by hill60 So how's Oracle's income stream from J2ME coming along? Pre-Android compared to post-Android? I'm just talking about the 37 files referenced in the Apple Insider article. "My opinions don't have anythi…
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Quote: Originally Posted by logic2.6 A very elemental *Google* search would resolve your confusion about "willful" infringement. But since you clearly can't be bothered, let me share some verifiable information: 1. Copyright at its core doesn'…
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Quote: Originally Posted by Realistic Do you really believe Google doesn't profit from Android and gives it away free because that is what the good companies do? Oracle potentially lost licensing fees from every Android manufacturer. I never …
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Quote: Originally Posted by Archos Well suggesting that lawyers are "nit picky" when that is their job - to argue the law - is pretty silly, but then to turn around and call Oracle a "patent troll" for suing over patent infringement is simply abs…
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Quote: Originally Posted by anonymouse Google has repeatedly demonstrated its disregard for intellectual property, with its, "We're so big we can do whatever we want," attitude. Exhibit A: The illegal Google Books Program. And, the third-party…
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Quote: Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody There's no way to know what the damages are until it goes to court, but the important thing to remember is that whether the infringement is big or small or intentional or unintentional, legally it's the s…
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Quote: Originally Posted by anonymouse It's not a patent issue, it's a copyright issue, and perhaps a trade secret issue. And it speaks directly to Google's credibility regarding their respect for intellectual property. Also, in this case, the is…
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Quote: Originally Posted by anonymouse Yes, I guess Sun/Oracle marked these files "PROPRIETARY/CONFIDENTIAL" & "DO NOT DISTRIBUTE!" because they were "extraneous ggarbage". It's really very simple as a copyright issue: Did they distribute …
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Quote: Originally Posted by sheff This is news worthy. Let's say you are samsung and you are trying to decide weather to keep going with your own platform or just rely exclusively on Android. This tips the balance in favor of having a plan 2, i…
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Quote: Originally Posted by TBell Part of the problem is Appleinsider isn't clarifying a few things (no offense). For instance, it doesn't say who uploaded the files. We are making assumptions. However, if you are going by the Appleinsider story,…
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Quote: Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody It's probably not worth posting to the thread at all since it seems chock-a-block full of the Android faithful wagging their jaws in disbelief, but this comment above is definitive IMO. Google may ge…
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Quote: Originally Posted by HIMOKO You FanDroids, Blind Worshipper, Are TOO NAIVE AND IGNORANT OR RETARDED！！！！！！！！！！！ As TBell Wisely Cited, "You don't need to show damages for copyright infringement. When the RIAA sues people …
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Quote: Originally Posted by TBell If you want, see my other post. Google doesn't need to ship an actual product to be found liable for copyright infringement. The copying and distribution of the code is probably enough. Moreover, the issue likely…
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Quote: Originally Posted by dualaub2006 I missed the not distribute part of your first post. In your second post, you are describing the act of making available which Googke had no right to do. It is licensed code that Googke stripped attribution…
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Quote: Originally Posted by TBell No you can ask for statutory damages. That used to be $100, 000 per infringing copy. Might still be that high, or possibly higher. Thanks I'll take a look at statutory damages. Are there any infringing copies…
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Quote: Originally Posted by dualaub2006 Google DID distribute the code. Even if the only people that downloaded those files were the bloggers that were looking in to this that is distribution. Google didn't just have them on some internal server.…
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Quote: Originally Posted by Aeolian I'll try to explain. Say you write a book that sells millions. A NYT best seller. Then some one takes a chapter of yours and writes a whole book based on it. This is very similar to CopyWright laws. Trying…
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Quote: Originally Posted by dualaub2006 No you cannot. Can you explain further please? The brief snip of the license I saw in the article stated not to redistribute the code. Can't you have the files containing the code on your system? My u…
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Quote: Originally Posted by hill60 Was Oracle's copyright code published by Google, without the express permission of Oracle? As the code exists or existed in repositories managed by Google the answer is yes. Now it's up to a judge to deter…
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Quote: Originally Posted by hill60 Was Oracle's copyright code published by Google, without the express permission of Oracle? As the code exists or existed in repositories managed by Google the answer is yes. Now it's up to a judge to deter…