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Quote: Originally posted by pfflam yeah . . . exactly So I take it you're now conceding the article accurately described the position of many on the left. Well, good for you. It takes a big man to admit he's wrong.
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Quote: Originally posted by pfflam That article is sickening . . . Yes, it is.Quote: . . . I have never read, or even seen the American Spectator, but judging by that mean-spirited and hateful article. . . Imagine that.
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Quote: Originally posted by Scott Of course the anti-american left is hoping for collapse in Iraq. No misery is too great when you can blame it on the US... Bingo. It's all about blood for power.
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Quote: Originally posted by BRussell So tax cuts play no causal role whatsoever in revenue drops? I can't believe you really believe that... I can't believe you really believe that a recession so deep that unemployment was in double digits (t…
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Quote: Originally posted by groverat That is the entire point of this thread. The Bush Administration (and remember the Executive is the head of law enforcement) defines "terrorist" on racial lines in their little "war" on terror. Yeah, reme…
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Quote: Originally posted by BRussell . . . Do you know the only other time revenues have actually fallen since 1982? They didn't fall for the 1991 recession. So? The economic situation in 1991 wasn't anything like it was in the early '80s. . .…
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Quote: Originally posted by BRussell Did the tax cuts cause revenues to increase? Is that really plausible? Does anyone believe that anymore? Lower taxes caused the economic growth which caused the increased revenue. Democrats used to under…
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Quote: Originally posted by BRussell His 1982 tax increase didn't make up for the lost revenue of the 1981 tax cut. . . So Reagan's largest tax increase in history still left us with LOWER taxes. . . okay. . .Quote: . . . Why didn't the sup…
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Quote: Originally posted by ShawnJ Pfflam, sometimes I have trouble following you, like when you go off on some deep philosophical tangent, but those paragraphs above are so evocative and thought-provoking. Only few have said it better. But has…
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Quote: Originally posted by BRussell I don't think the gap was as large as you suggest. He expanded the EITC and the child tax credit, and raised the upper rates. That wasn't too far off from what he proposed. And Reagan's 1982 tax increase was a…
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Quote: Originally posted by pfflam Rush Limbaugh has guided the swing towards the right since early in Clinton's existence . . . you cannot overestimate his sway. . . Yes you can and you just did. Limbaugh provided a morale boost for the rig…
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Quote: Originally posted by ShawnJ It sounds like you're holding him to a much higher standard. Do you think anything Reagan or Bush II said came from themselves? I don't care that it came from Carville. I was just responding to Jimmac who t…
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Quote: Originally posted by BRussell I don't think it can be argued that Clinton didn't stand for anything or didn't propose anything ambitious. If anything, he was overly ambitious, and that's why the Dems got killed by the Republicans in 1994. …
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Quote: Originally posted by jimmac I'll have to check on that one but you could be right. It was the Clinton / Gore campaign slogan but I thought Clinton came up with the saying. "It's the economy, stupid." came from Carville.
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Quote: Originally posted by jimmac In other words you were a youngster back then eh? I'm just old enough to have had the opportunity to vote for Reagan two times but I never did. With the passage of time I changed my mind about him.
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Quote: Originally posted by BRussell Clinton ran on welfare reform in 1992... Yes he did but he never quite got around to submitting his own welfare reform bill to Congress. That's the difference between campaign promises and actual governan…
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Quote: Originally posted by jimmac Funny I'm 51 so I was an adult then and I don't remember that. 51 and already losing your memory. That's too bad.
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Quote: Originally posted by BRussell I remember quite a few: End welfare as we know it. Era of big government is over... And he did sign welfare reform into law after a GOP Congress repeatedly sent him the bill. As for saying the era of big …
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Quote: Originally posted by midwinter That's naive. Get your panties out of a bunch and go tell that, what you just said to me, to everyone you ever hear complain about Bush and the liberal media. Sounds like you're the one with his panties…
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Quote: Originally posted by midwinter Yup. And they need to get their friggin' panties out of a bunch. Clinton's presidency is what it was. He did some good things and he did some bad things. He owns responsibility for his own failings not …