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Quote: Originally Posted by Dr Millmoss Oh? Maybe you need to read the article. As it says very clearly, many institutional investors can't buy AAPL now because they pay no dividend. This means that the institutional investment market for AAPL is…
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Quote: Originally Posted by Dr Millmoss Good luck making that case around here. Most people on this board not only don't understand this principle, they adamantly and aggressively misunderstand it. You are 100% correct.
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Quote: Originally Posted by jragosta Stock buybacks are easy. Let's say that the market values the entire company at $500 B and there are 1 B shares. That means that each share is valued at $500. Now, if Apple buys back 10% of its shares, ther…
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Quote: Originally Posted by GregInPrague You're 5th point doesn't seem like a rational argument to me. Wouldn't it make much more sense to compare the price of any of the mentioned stocks against themselves from before they instituted a divide…
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Quote: Originally Posted by herbapou Law of large numbers is the problem. I think they should do both, a regular dividend on the common share to allow more funds to buy Apple and buybacks to artificially rise the stock prices. I dont like buybac…
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jragosta, So I can conclude that if Apple's Board institute's an annual dividend and stock buyback, you will be a seller of AAPL stock, since you believe so strongly that Apple will follow Microsofts path. "I know Apple Sir, and Apple is no Mi…
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Quote: Originally Posted by Satorical First, regarding all the back-and-forth on this thread: http://xkcd.com/386/ Second, does anyone know of a way to profit from Apple not announcing a dividend on this next earnings call? I already own AAPL…
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Third, Berkshire Hathaway investing in dividend-paying stocks is different than an individual doing so. They can exclude 70% of the dividends from taxes: http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2011/...boa-dividends/ HA HA read the article CLOWN Buf…
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jragosta, any comments on this point from Ben Reitzes analysis: The sixth and final potential catalyst laid out by Reitzes was a hypothetical "return cash to shareholders" policy, which he believes would be a strong use of the nearly $100 billion…
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jragosta, You are the king of the "straw man" argument. Tedious and pedantic, you'll even TWIST/SPIN Warren Buffett's investing style to suit your arguments. http://www.cnbc.com/id/33608379/Berk...dings?slide=16 OK, 14 of 15 of his LARGEST…
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Quote: Originally Posted by jragosta Sure. Contact your local bookie to see if they have a line on the odds of Apple offering a dividend. Other than that, in the stock market, you either bet on the stock going up or going down. There is no way…
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The sixth and final potential catalyst laid out by Reitzes was a hypothetical "return cash to shareholders" policy, which he believes would be a strong use of the nearly $100 billion in cash and investments being held by Apple. He noted that with th…
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Quote: Originally Posted by jragosta Hint: the person who provides facts and figures and historical evidence is more likely to be right than the person who's just pulling things out of his rear. How about we arm wrestle? LOL Seriously, you …
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Quote: Originally Posted by anantksundaram syracuse, he has a point. I agree that jragosta can be confrontational (at times), but that is a good finance lecture he gave you.. I worked as a Managing Director for several large Investment Banks f…
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Quote: Originally Posted by JeffDM Taxes. IIRC, dividends are taxed as unearned income, holding the stock and selling it after a set period of time is taxed by capital gains, often taxed at 20 points less. You're saying the largest compan…
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Quote: Originally Posted by jragosta Why the heck should I bother? You don't have any intelligent argument and everything you post is contrary to standard business practice. Even if you found one book which supports you (which you haven't done si…
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Quote: Originally Posted by jragosta I REALLY wish that people who don't understand finance would stop cluttering this (and other) forum(s) with their drivel. The bolded is 100% wrong. The share value is a combination of the value of the cash …
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Quote: Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum Yeah... Analysts like Cramer who periodically buy/sell shares to manipulate them -- then brag about the churn. Those aren't investors -- they're manipulators. No one should seriously listen to …
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Quote: Originally Posted by kaiser_soze AAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH! I hate to shout, BUT BY WHAT RATIONALE DO YOU REGARD STOCKHOLDERS AND ANALYSTS AS TWO MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE CLASSES OF PEOPLE??????????????????????????? The analysts that I have in…
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Dick Applebaum, you sound like a nice fellow. Apple is way too large to be manipulated by hedge funds. The reason a dividend makes sense is their are many large Value Fund Managers like Fidelity, Vanguard, T Rowe Price, etc that would LOVE to …