gatorguy

snookie said:

gatorguy said:

braytonak said:

I have to disagree with such a favorable rating. 

Backlight banding when auto brightness is enabled? Unusable HDR over USB-C? Those two points alone should barely earn 4. 

Add in the unlabeled controls (unless the labels appear on-screen,) cheap plastic, and speakers that are most likely only good enough for notifications to really make it a pass-with-a-push. 

I know, the point is the display itself. I’ve waited almost ten years for a decent 5K. Maybe the next Studio Display will be the sweet spot. 

I have two ProArt's now, both 32" for graphics work. I would agree more with the author.

Speakers on a monitor are for users who don't care all that much about sound quality. Good enough for a few Youtube videos but not for great music. So that's not a ProArt fail IMO.

Banding with auto-dim only on a very pale background is another non-issue as far as I'm concerned. I have my monitors in the same place under the same lighting 24/7, and all of them with hoods to minimize stray light. Why would I want persistent auto-dim? My major objection is it changes my perceived color tones. That's the same reason I turn off auto-dim on my SmartTV. I would understand if the light was constantly in flux, like with my smartphone wanderings. For the limited want to dim my computer monitor. manually doing so once or twice a week as desired (or in my case never) isn't problematic. Again, not an Asus fail. 

Controls? Yes they are labeled on screen, but I will agree I'm no fan of how Asus incorporates the controls. It could be improved. Fortunately that's another feature that's rarely touched after setup. Dimming can be accomplished with a hot key.

Plastic exterior components? They're not hammers so what's the issue with a lighter build. You set it up and forget it. My current Asus monitors are solid. 

Built in KVM works for me. Both systems that use my Asus monitors are set up with two computers/one monitor, one for design and one for RIP, and we go back and forth regularly each day. Mine are set up with separate KVM's, another box to make room for. Built-in = better. 

For color accuracy and system compatibility, I could not be happier, and mine are only 4K. The value of this 5K monitor far outweighs the out-of-pocket cost. "You can buy two and still have money left over versus buying Apple's expensive Studio Display" means a whole lot more to me than whether a monitor frame is plastic. 

The Asus looks like janky cheap plastic with far fewer features such as speaker, KVM ability, and webcam.  I'll take the studio display all day long and pay the extra.

The Asus has the KVM built-in. 

I don't need "better than most monitor speakers" when working. If high-quality sound is important to YOU, even $150 will buy you far more depth, range, and volume than a Studio Display could produce, correct?
 
I also don't want a camera with its potential privacy issues on any monitor of mine, and never have in my 40 years of computer use.  A separate and distinct camera component is used as needed and then removed. YMMV and apparently does.

As others have mentioned, saving $100's with the Asus might mean being able to afford a higher spec'd Apple computer,which would deliver far more tangible benefits. 

braytonak said:

I have to disagree with such a favorable rating. 

Backlight banding when auto brightness is enabled? Unusable HDR over USB-C? Those two points alone should barely earn 4. 

Add in the unlabeled controls (unless the labels appear on-screen,) cheap plastic, and speakers that are most likely only good enough for notifications to really make it a pass-with-a-push. 

I know, the point is the display itself. I’ve waited almost ten years for a decent 5K. Maybe the next Studio Display will be the sweet spot. 

I have two ProArt's now, both 32" for graphics work. I would agree more with the author.

Speakers on a monitor are for users who don't care all that much about sound quality. Good enough for a few Youtube videos but not for great music. So that's not a ProArt fail IMO.

Banding with auto-dim only on a very pale background is another non-issue as far as I'm concerned. I have my monitors in the same place under the same lighting 24/7, and all of them with hoods to minimize stray light. Why would I want persistent auto-dim? My major objection is it changes my perceived color tones. That's the same reason I turn off auto-dim on my SmartTV. I would understand if the light was constantly in flux, like with my smartphone wanderings. For the limited want to dim my computer monitor. manually doing so once or twice a week as desired (or in my case never) isn't problematic. Again, not an Asus fail. 

Controls? Yes they are labeled on screen, but I will agree I'm no fan of how Asus incorporates the controls. It could be improved. Fortunately that's another feature that's rarely touched after setup. Dimming can be accomplished with a hot key.

Plastic exterior components? They're not hammers so what's the issue with a lighter build. You set it up and forget it. My current Asus monitors are solid. 

Built in KVM works for me. Both systems that use my Asus monitors are set up with two computers/one monitor, one for design and one for RIP, and we go back and forth regularly each day. Mine are set up with separate KVM's, another box to make room for. Built-in = better. 

For color accuracy and system compatibility, I could not be happier, and mine are only 4K. The value of this 5K monitor far outweighs the out-of-pocket cost. "You can buy two and still have money left over versus buying Apple's expensive Studio Display" means a whole lot more to me than whether a monitor frame is plastic. 

charlesn said:

gatorguy said:

charlesn said:

Ironic. All this panic over TikTok because, OMG, "the Chinese threat." Gotta shut it down RIGHT. NOW. Meanwhile, human excrement Zuckerberg proudly announces his plan to run unfiltered poison through the veins of America's internet 24/7, via his Facebook/Instagram/Threads applications, and this in addition to his long-standing practice of abusing consumer privacy any way that he can by monetizing your data. But all THIS isn't a problem apparently because he's on.... our side? Really? I'd rather take my chances with Xi. 

It's not panic driven, nor was the law insisting on "right now". They've had nine months to take care of it.
If anyone is in panic mode it is ByteDance. Their own fault for refusing to take it serious enough until the last minute. 

Of course, you miss the entire point of my post. But sure, whatever. As for Bytedance "refusing to take it serious enough" -- hmmm, the incoming President DID assure his voters throughout the campaign that TikTok wasn't going anywhere on his watch... and he filed a strong brief on behalf of TikTok with SCOTUS... 

He also assured his voters that all the Jan. 6th protesters would be pardoned. Vance now says Mr. Trump is walking that back. It won't be the only "promise" he made that may not ever come to fruition. It's tough to tell when he really REALLY means something, or when it's just playtime, what some proponents call his negotiation style. Afterall, Trump tried his best to ban Tik Tok the first time he was President. After the next administration made it happen, now he says he didn't mean it?? Doubtful.

Personally, I put little faith in what he says. I'm waiting on actions right around the corner.

AppleZulu said:

SmittyW said:

AppleZulu said:

SmittyW said:

AppleZulu said:

hodar said:

Who said that LGBTQ or minorities cannot be qualified?  How about hiring the brightest, the best and most talented without regard to their skin color, their plumbing or things that have absolutely nothing to do with things unrelated to the job?  Hire by merit, that's how Apple got out of the garage.

Funny how “merit” wasn’t important when systematically refusing to hire certain genders and ethnicities was de rigeur. There was no meritocracy then. Now, as soon as anyone talks about systematically extending opportunities to the same people who were previously systematically excluded, we hear how there must be a meritocracy. There’s not much merit in that. 

Agreed. The way to fight hate, is with more hate!

DEI is literally the opposite of hate. Hate is exclusion. Inclusion is literally what the I stands for. Increasing the recruitment pool almost always yields stronger teams. 

Favoring one group or groups over another group is inherently exclusionary to the latter group. Thus, by your definition, DEI is hateful (which is obvious).

You don’t seem to know what the definition of “definition” is. 

Taking down the “whites only” signs in a public high school and escorting black kids in to assure they get the same books and same teachers as the white kids is not “favoring one group or groups over another group.” It is enforcing the opposite...

Lately I've found myself agreeing with you far more than not. Thanks for the rational, logical, and unemotional response to baiting.

charlesn said:

Ironic. All this panic over TikTok because, OMG, "the Chinese threat." Gotta shut it down RIGHT. NOW. Meanwhile, human excrement Zuckerberg proudly announces his plan to run unfiltered poison through the veins of America's internet 24/7, via his Facebook/Instagram/Threads applications, and this in addition to his long-standing practice of abusing consumer privacy any way that he can by monetizing your data. But all THIS isn't a problem apparently because he's on.... our side? Really? I'd rather take my chances with Xi. 

It's not panic driven, nor was the law insisting on "right now". They've had nine months to take care of it.
If anyone is in panic mode it is ByteDance. Their own fault for refusing to take it serious enough until the last minute.