gatorguy

sdw2001 said:

ssfe11 said:

Clueless idiot. Oh and btw Springfield do you know that your pets are getting eaten?  Fido is being roasted up right now. Smh you can’t even make this stuff up!

Yeah, except it’s actually happening.  

Yeah, I just watched the Ohio video that proves it. It's really happening, just as Trump and SDW say!  Watch the woman in the driveway with a pet cat in her mouth when police arrive.
We have to do something about this disgusting... Just a second... what?? She's not Haitian? Yeah, but she's an illegal alien, so what does it matter. Back to what I was saying, we have to... Huh?  Seriously? She's not an illegal alien either?? It's America's citizens doing this kind of stuff?

Ok, but JD Vance has proof! Hold on just another second... That too? Gosh, now he's saying "It's possible, of course, that all of these rumors will turn out to be false". 

Dang it, can't trust anyone. I thought he and Trump were telling us something factual, but now they're saying it was just a rumor to begin with.

OK, but what about the goose killed in a Springfield park and the illegal Haitian beheading and eating it? Oh, that story is from Columbus, not Springfield, and no one knows the story behind the goose, where it came from, nor the man's citizenship status? It wasn't even near a park?

Nevermind. 

Apple has another reason to distrust what Vance and Trump say about the Heritage Foundation, source of Project 2025. JD Vance penned the forward for it's President book, being kept  back from sale until after the election. 

Vance predicts that "Roberts’s book will pave the way for a new age of conservatism in which the right goes on the “offensive.", with one excerpt from JD Vance's forward here:

“Roberts (Heritage Foundation President) understands economics and supports basic free market principles, but he doesn’t make an idol out of decades old theories. He argues persuasively that the modern financial corporation was almost entirely foreign to the founders of our nation. The closest eighteenth-century analogue to the modern Apple or Google is the British East India company, a monstrous hybrid of public and private power that would have made its subjects completely unable to access an American sense of liberty. The idea that our founders meant to make their citizens subjects to this kind of hybrid power is a historical and preposterous, yet too many modern ‘conservatives’ make such an idol out of the market that they ignore this. A private company that can censor speech, influence elections, and work seamlessly with intelligence services and other federal bureaucrats deserves the scrutiny of the Right, not its support.”

IMO, It's impossible to take Trump at his word that he's never even read the Project 2025 recommendations and would never use them as a blueprint for his administration anyway, considering his running mate's very intimate relationship with the organization. Perhaps that's the reason for Vance being on the ticket despite some Republican leaders confusion why when there were far better selections available. 

https://www.theguardian.com/books/article/2024/aug/07/project-2025-roberts-jd-vance-introduction

MacPro said:

gatorguy said:

MacPro said:

gatorguy said:

It's a sad reflection on the fear-mongering negativity one side is using. Personally, I'm a huge fan of lifting us all up instead.

Above all: Don't believe whatever comes out of the mouth of a selfishly-guided politician just because he said it. Most are all too happy to promote half-truths, mostly lie, or outright lie in order to "win". I'm sorry, but it is no win for us to be misled, and only find out what we were buying after he's already in office; telling us what we can and can't do without being asked again. They don't care if we agreed. They will be the ones in the power chair and will tell us, dictator style, not ask. 

Agreed.  Yep, he should focus on aliens eating cats and dogs and Governors executing live babies; you know, real news that's fact-checked. /s

And a few minutes ago, I believe Mr. Trump announced he will do no more debates, not even in the friendly confines of Fox News with Fox moderators. Probably for the best. 

Thanks for the update; I missed that.

In his Arizona rally about to take place, I'm waiting for him to say his announcement took courage.

MacPro said:

gatorguy said:

It's a sad reflection on the fear-mongering negativity one side is using. Personally, I'm a huge fan of lifting us all up instead.

Above all: Don't believe whatever comes out of the mouth of a selfishly-guided politician just because he said it. Most are all too happy to promote half-truths, mostly lie, or outright lie in order to "win". I'm sorry, but it is no win for us to be misled, and only find out what we were buying after he's already in office; telling us what we can and can't do without being asked again. They don't care if we agreed. They will be the ones in the power chair and will tell us, dictator style, not ask. 

Agreed.  Yep, he should focus on aliens eating cats and dogs and Governors executing live babies; you know, real news that's fact-checked. /s

And a few minutes ago, I believe Mr. Trump announced he will do no more debates, not even in the friendly confines of Fox News with Fox moderators. Probably for the best. 

spheric said:

In other news, immigrants in Springfield steal and eat others' dogs and eat them. 

Who the fuck cares what bullshit JD Vance spouts, unless it's subsequently picked up by Tr*mp to utterly embarrass himself to a worldwide audience? 

What would be humorous if it weren't so childish is a hardcore dedicated-MAGA fight over that dog-eating story fed to Mr. Trump. Now they're fighting with each other.