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hammeroftruth said:

gatorguy said:

kamyk35 said:

Privacy considerations

Google has addressed potential privacy concerns with Ask Photos. The company assures users that their photo data won't be used for advertising.

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Are there people that really believe that?

There sure are.

Lawyers are anxiously waiting in the wings to sue Google for $Billions if there's any indication they're lying. 

I think the mistrust goes back to 2012 when they agreed to pay a record $22.5 million civil penalty to settle Federal Trade Commission charges that it misrepresented to users of Apple Inc.’s Safari Internet browser that it would not place tracking “cookies” or serve targeted ads to those users, violating an earlier privacy settlement between the company and the FTC.

Source:  https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2012/08/google-will-pay-225-million-settle-ftc-charges-it-misrepresented-privacy-assurances-users-apples

Essentially correct. The fine was for offering incorrect information on how to opt-out. That's not selling data, but definitely not a shining moment from last decade. 

Wasn't this an old story? I think I remember this being an article on AppleInsider maybe a year or two ago. 

For what it's worth, most relatively recent Google Android devices also give the user a “green indicator” if the microphone or camera is in use, just as iPhone's do. That's been in place since Android 12 in 2021.
https://source.android.com/docs/core/permissions/privacy-indicators

EDIT: Yes, the story was previously reported here last year:

At the time Cox Media denied they were doing any such thing, yet here we are again. 
https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/12/15/one-advertiser-may-be-able-to-listen-in-on-you----if-you-have-an-android-phone
BTW, Cox Media is no longer trusted by Google and removed as an advertising partner as mentioned in the AI article. Facebook and Amazon are less clear. 

It's probably Apple covering their butts, making sure they have access to at least one of the premium AI providers, and keep a closer eye on the state of development. It doesn't mean they'll integrate with Open AI anymore than they already are, but it does keep a door open in case their own plans don't work out. Google and Amazon are both major Anthropic investors, again covering their butts, and especially in Amazon's case that's a good move and for the same reason it would be good for Apple. 

As an aside, I had been unaware until this past week that OpenAI was edging close to bankruptcy, and with no clear path to profitability, which is why they're going for another fundraiser. Fortunate for them there's Big Tech around to bail them out. 
https://www.asiafinancial.com/openais-8-5-billion-bills-spark-bankruptcy-speculation

cpsro said:

I've been more impressed by Claude from Anthropic.

You and Amazon both. They're reportedly integrating Antropics Claude in a subscription Alexa service instead of their own home grow AI which appears to be a fail. 

danox said:

nubus said:

apple4thewin said:

Now the question is, will the next person be better? And beneficial for Apple

Likely not. Vestager recently tried to hire an American for a senior position but got blocked by France. Her focus was on antitrust to keep the market open and privacy protection. The replacement will be forced to deliver protectionism and go further.

Too bad about France Mistral is in the top 10 of AI models today but I think they the French will burn down even their own countryman’s creations in spite.

Mistral became a pariah in some circles when they agreed to partner with Microsoft earlier this year.

The issue any company not American or Chinese will have is that the private investment money needed to compete with those AI models isn't there. But accepting money from American Big Tech isn't acceptable to many of them either. Rock meet Hard Place.