gatorguy

9secondkox2 said:

gatorguy said:

macxpress said:

Apple needs a way to keep their platform secure regardless of where the app came from and if this is the better way to do it then I'm for it. It cannot just be a free for all like Android is. 

Google has a different method of protecting users who bypass the official PlayStore and sideload apps, and it doesn't involve pre-vetting everything that might be installed from any other store. Those users aren't abandoned.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/10/android-will-now-scan-sideloaded-apps-for-malware-at-install-time/

 By the way, on the Android platform, one of the more popular 3rd party app stores is F-Droid. They've had an amazingly low incidence level of malware. IMO, most  (not all) of The "OMG, MALWARE stories we're bombarded with are designed to protect the OS providers profits, scaring us into submission, or circulated by antivirus companies wanting to give you a reason to buy their product.

And it works. 

No. It doesn’t. It may catch the truly egregious stuff that’s coded using obvious and ubiquitous malware. Not the custom stuff. The nature of android itself is so open in data connections that it will always be a problem. The custom malware gets right past those scans. 

It take a thorough vetting process with testing to see what the apps actually doing during use, at idle, and just in an installed state. That’s why apple is light years ahead of Google and everyone else in this game. 

macxpress said:

Apple needs a way to keep their platform secure regardless of where the app came from and if this is the better way to do it then I'm for it. It cannot just be a free for all like Android is. 

Marvin said:

gatorguy said:

Reports circulating today calim bots were able to order 1000's of the Vision Pro units, despite Apple requiring face scans and an Apple ID. Somehow, they were able to bypass both of those. Just one particular buyer was able to order 1,592 of them, and there were far more than a dozen bots at work snapping up units.

Based on what I can gather from claims, I would not be shocked to learn upwards of 20% of the sales total was purchased by scam bots, whose owners then listed them for sale at ridiculous prices on eBay etc. 

Seems far-fetched. To buy 20k units would cost $70m and in order to sell them again, the scalpers either have to send their face scan or have to pick up the product in store after getting fitted, then the buyer has to take it back to the store to get fitted again x20,000 times.

This seller only had 3 available:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/325975473681

People typically use bots to make sure they get one, not that they get thousands. I'd guess the one with the 1592 orders didn't pay the $5.5m but rather only paid for a few. I'm sure there are some twisted millionaires out there who would be into doing this kind of thing but this would be way too much effort for the return.

Thousands of people could have bought a few each with the intention of selling them but a lot more would have shown on eBay. There's only around 200 active listings and 17 shown as sold.