steven n.

sacto joe said:

Let’s be honest here: Senator Warren was wrong to lump Apple in with the rest of the gang. And she’s wrong to say or even imply that sheer size defines morality.

But she’s not wrong about tech abuse being prevalent, up to and including it’s manipulation by inimicable foreign powers.

So all this crap about how she’s a lousy choice for President is more down to folks who, for one reason or another, don’t want her to be President. Speaking objectively, compared to a piece of work like Donald Trump she’s as pure as the driven snow.

If folks are truly serious about criticising Senator Warren’s POV, then you’ll know who they are, because they’ll be the ones not attacking her personally.

’Nuff said. 

knowitall said:

Seems Warren is up to a good start.

I fail to see how and why splitting up Apple and its store changes security.
At the moment ‘security’ is created by signing the submitted apps after ‘checking’ the content (running a suite of heuristic checks and sometimes looking at it by a human). Anytings that is API wise possible can be created and submitted and if those test fail or the human overlooks the child porn button, the app is signed and added to the store, the same goes for spying apps that cleverly hide behaviour at test time (say ‘defeat device’).
Inherent API and OS security stayes completely the same, the ony difference is the app governing body is not Apple any more.

gatorguy said:

SpamSandwich said:

karmadave said:

I do not support Elizabeth Warren's candidacy, but believe she is fostering an important discussion. EW has been a tireless advocate for consumers vs. big, powerful corporations. Before being elected to the Senate she was a law professor and has studied issues such as monopoly and concentration of corporate power and its effects on consumers. My initial reaction was to dismiss her comments as bombastic and naive, however upon listening to a more recent interview, she does raise some excellent points. I suggest people open their minds and consider what she is really saying. Namely that large tech companies have too much power and often use this power to squash smaller, upstart competitors. It's really about the business practices, some of these companies use, that should be more closely examined. I fundamentally disagree that companies like Amazon, Facebook, Apple, etc. should be broken up. However, certain business practices these companies use should be examined and if necessary should be prohibited by law. By giving these companies 'cart blanche' to squash smaller competitors it actually discourages new business generation. EW is not against success, just business practices that are unfair and fundamentally anti-competitive. 

P.S. Please keep this discussion civil. I have tried to avoid politics and certainly would NEVER wage ad hominem attacks on those with whom I disagree ;-)

A vibrant competitive marketplace ensures companies stay on their toes...
Capitalism and competition work!

That's in essence what Ms. Warren is advocating isn't it? 

davgreg said:

lkrupp said:

The rage against Capitalism has been going on for decades now in education, revisionist history, and media propaganda. Young people are attracted to the siren call of Socialism because it promises them the moon. No more student loans to pay off, free healthcare, free college, guaranteed employment, the list goes on. Who wouldn’t be supportive of stuff like that until you sit down and think how it would be implemented? Warren wants the government to have absolute, total control over the economy, the society, the way we think. And the thing about that kind of mentality is that, once entrenched, there is no tolerance for dissent. We’ve seen what happens over and over again in history when governments control everything.

This is just a political rant without cited proof against the boogie man of “socialism” that does not address the proposal any part of it.

FYI- all countries have some elements of socialism in a mixed economy. You drive on public roads, many of us attended a public university, fire departments, levee and hospital districts, the universal service fund and many other ongoing things are socialism. Ms Warren is a Socialist like Apple is a  tire company.