rob53

quakerotis said:

It's not Apple's, it's Masimo's.

Not necessarily. Check out https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/05/01/apple-watch-trial-endslatest-chapter-of-2-billion-apple-watch-patent-battle-ends-in-mistrial The vote in favor of Apple was 6-1 but for some stupid reason it needed to be unanimous. One juror out of seven doesn't sound like Apple used Masimo's patents. Yes, Masimo has patents on pulse oximeters but so do other patent holders. Masimo also references other patents within their patents. I've always wondered about these patent references. I doubt Masimo was the first and only company to create a medical pulse oximeter, which is not something Apple is including in their Apple Watch. Apple is providing a non-medical pulse oximeter without all the critical testing and accuracy. I bought a home use pulse oximeter for $30, Masimo's go for 10X that amount. There is a difference in what Apple and Masimo are selling. Did Apple actually use the Masimo patents in their entirety or simply use parts of the patents, which seems to be what other companies do. 

Do airlines carry pulse oximeters on-board? Probably not. Do people carry their own pulse oximeters wherever they go? Probably not. Was the woman's life saved because she had a pulse oximeter on her watch, which provided enough information that the cabin crew knew to give her oxygen? Absolutely! Do we credit this to Masimo? Absolutely not!

Alex_V said:

rob53 said:

Good luck Europe. Prepare to be controlled by your government requiring loading of government-sponsored malware tracking your every movement without any need for a warrant. The first third-party app storefront will be controlled by your local police force, requiring every citizen to load government specific software. In many cases you won't even know they're loading monitoring software, you'll be required to load a government app that includes voter ID, driver's license, etc. Everything in one app will be presented as software everyone needs for taxes and every other government process. Guess what's going to also be loaded in the background .... yep, monitoring software so they know where you're at and what you're doing. Have fun!!

You mean, like the commercial malware that Google installs on every computer tracking your every move, reading every email and document, while denying you any privacy at all? Or, do you mean the commercial malware that Facebook uses to track your movements, your social network, likes and dislike, and monitoring your phone and linking your number to your purchases, memberships etc., that is, your life away from the internet. Or, do you mean the commercial cookie hell that was the internet before the EU stepped in and regulated that kak? All of this thanks to your pole-dancing prostitutes that you call ‘representatives’ doing nothing to reign in the most egregious invasions of privacy and attacks on personal freedom being unleashed from the bowels of capitalist Silicon Valley. Is that what you mean?

I didn't say the USA doesn't allow these but you've also made my point. Of course I don't use Google products (I try and shut down all trackers on this website) or Facebook, never have used twitter/X and simply try and stay away from all the websites that do exactly what you say.

avon b7 said:

That already exists basically in Spain: an app called 'My Citizen Folder' where a huge amount of government related information and documentation is bundled up into one place. 

tech_traveller said:

This also exists in India, there is a service called Digilocker. I think it's good, government documents should not be in the hands of private companies such as Apple.

My point exactly. It's already being done.

I thought Apple won the trial something like 5 out of 6 but it had to be unanimous so they lost. That's ridiculous. I bought a finger pulse oximeter from Innova. There's all kinds of these things on amazon and when I went to a patent for one it had a ton of other patents it referred to. I've always seen these attacks of Apple products as being a money grab. Why can I buy a standalone pulse oximeter for $30 and Apple can't include parts of one in their (my) watch? 

Good luck Europe. Prepare to be controlled by your government requiring loading of government-sponsored malware tracking your every movement without any need for a warrant. The first third-party app storefront will be controlled by your local police force, requiring every citizen to load government specific software. In many cases you won't even know they're loading monitoring software, you'll be required to load a government app that includes voter ID, driver's license, etc. Everything in one app will be presented as software everyone needs for taxes and every other government process. Guess what's going to also be loaded in the background .... yep, monitoring software so they know where you're at and what you're doing. Have fun!!

Both of you are wrong. Beeper is hacking a Mac to get access. This is blatantly against Apple’s EULA agreement. People need to quit giving hackers a reason to have any product.