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Marvin said:stuartf said:Except…
John Turnes of Apple quite literally said that the M1 Ultra completes the M1 line up just days ago
It is more likely that the MacPro will be based on M2 silicon or even a completely different design
The Mac Pro can be offered with M1 Ultra at the entry level and an M1 Ultra Duo. There is no higher name than Ultra. Pro = better, Max = maximum, Ultra = beyond maximum. They can only call it Ultra something like infinity + 1. I expect they will be able to offer 256GB RAM on the Ultra Duo. The amount of RAM they need to offer is just what people have been installing, they don't need to support 1TB+ just because other computers do.
I don't want to violate copyrighted images so check out max tech, Apple's M2 Ultra DUO Mac Pro, 7:34 mark.
Let's see. Why isn't the UK going after big oil? It stifles competition but governments don't seem to care. Same with automobile dealerships. These are worse because stupid legislatures have put this monopoly into law. Apple makes a great product, has a very good ecosystem and is something people actually are willing to buy. People make the decision on what products to buy. Forcing Apple to degrade their product in the bogus name of competition is simply a money grab by governments. Apple products cost more than others but people buy them so how is Apple stopping competition? This is all a distraction, especially in the US, to not go after the actual criminals in this country and around the world.
MacCatHatter said:My biggest gripe is putting every thing on one internal drive.
It's not very UNIX smart.
I would prefer a smaller OS only drive and multiple data drives.
I would also like them all mirrored (disk arrays).
That's how I always build a unix server - redundancy is simpler and faster than icloud backups.
But, I backup, too.
I have a large legacy of archives I need to keep accessible and constantly migrating it to newer media.
Remember when we thought CD's would be a long term storage solution ? I can't even read some of them any longer.
Stuff I put on the iCloud was lost, even at Apple's first cloud storage (Mobile ? - can't remember what it was called).
Huge photo albums I created and carefully annotated files, lost with move to Photos.
Heartless, cruel Marketing people....
There is nothing worse than a single point of failure - and one big SSD is exactly that.
As for RAID storage, I don't see Apple making redundant, mirrored storage an option for internal storage. External storage is only as fast as the interface (Thunderbolt) can deliver. I haven't read anything about what version of PCIe the M1 Pro/Max/Ultra is using but that has an impact of Thunderbolt and therefore external storage. I know there are at least software RAID systems configured with multiple NVMe blades, check out OWC, but I haven't seen them with multiple Thunderbolt inputs. The M1 Pro, etc., have individual TB4 channels, they aren't shared (so far I think that's correct), making it a possibility a vendor could build a 4+ blade, dual TB4 input, RAID, either software based or hardware based that "might" match the speed of the internal storage, which is very fast. Let me say that again, it's very very very fast. In fact, the storage media might not be able to even keep up with the storage bus.
As for a single point of failure time will tell on how failure prone the M1 Macs are. On older Macs, the RAM and disk storage had more failure than the actual CPU, which included various cache and other types of storage. I am hopeful the integrated storage and memory in the SoC will mean a whole lot less failure. As I said at the beginning, we need to Think Different with this generation of Macs.
Fidonet127 said:viclauyyc said:sflocal said:viclauyyc said:Well, it looks good on number in the presentation. But let’s not forget the Ultra is comparing with a 2 year old Xeon. 2 years is a lot in computer technology. Not to mention, arguably AMD’s Epyc is the fastest CPU in the PC world.Let’s hope the future Mac Pro will be even faster with 4/8 sets of CPU. But it might cost $8000 on the entry model.While AMD's offerings is also impressive, when compared in terms of performance-per-watt, ASi outperforms them both.
If you want to rack mount these, they won't fit in the current 19" rack assemblies but I'm sure these will be available very soon. Turning them on their side lets you put five in a 3 or 4U rack. That's 15A/120V per shelf. A rack of these could use a much lower kVA UPS than the old Intel Mac minis. I wish I was still working, I would have ordered several right away.
ppietra said:godofbiscuits said:Because a trillion dollar petroleum fund has the strong ethics to say no to income and wealth disparity.