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President-elect Trump considers potential Apple manufacturing in US a 'real achievement'
Your ability to derive an entire person's personality, beliefs, and morales from a single sentence is a neat trick.jlandd said:
Your argument that if someone says something in a private conversation it can't be used as an indicator of their character is not only not accurate, but I would say that it's the best indicator of all.I'm not going to repeat what Trump said IN A PRIVATE CONVERSATION to another person who was quite receptive to his "offensive" comments, but with regard to your "loser who probably hasn't had sex in a long time" comment... I take it you're not familiar with the stunningly beautiful women Trump has been married to and the number of kids he's fathered?
And if that individual had a reputation for regularly hiring women and placing them in positions of great managerial power and responsibilty within his companies well before it was trendy to do so, what would that say about them?
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President-elect Trump considers potential Apple manufacturing in US a 'real achievement'
You don't think it's a bit naive for a man to be in business for decades but only be accused of sexual assault mere weeks before a presidential election?foggyhill said:
You seem to live in your own damn bubble, at least 12 said he went without fucking consent, or given him essentially the time of day.gtr said:
Or he likes the woman, he sees the woman likes him, and he makes his move immediately.reefoid said:
Talking of twisting words and credibility, I see you missed out the other part of that quote:gtr said:reefoid said:You are basically saying there is nothing wrong with saying you can sexually assault women because you're famous. Despicable.Donald Trump; ”When you're a star, they'll let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the pussy.”let (lĕt) v. To give permission or opportunity to; allow:Twisting words.Great for your agenda. Not so much your credibility.
"I don't even wait"
In other words, he just does it, and if they don't complain he thinks that's some form of consent.
Try that defense in a court of law and see how far it gets you.
Waiting or not waiting has nothing has got nothing to do with consent.
His own fucking "eval" of the situation is irrelevant when putting his fucking hand on their vagina in public, got that.
We're not talking putting his paws around their waist, which is already skeezy without consent but not criminal; get a god damn clue.
Man, stay away from any women if that's how you think.
That's how it goes it asswipe men like Trump.
I think a woman likes me and I'm powerful enough that she'll probably not go to the police,
well that means she's OK with sexual assault....
If that's how you think get yourself checked into rehab before you end up in jail.
If you do that to me. YOU WILL END UP IN JAIL.
As for 'paws around their waist' feel to offer me your opinion on just two (there are a multitude more) of these two gentlemen:
Does your theory of non-consent extend to members of the opposition party?
(watching Joe Biden in action on YouTube is exceedingly concerning) -
President-elect Trump considers potential Apple manufacturing in US a 'real achievement'
anantksundaram said:
I don't inhabit your world, and I am glad I don't.gtr said:
Recognising the reality that 'rich guys get chicks' and that 'many chicks let them' is hardly misogyny.anantksundaram said:Incredible -- even though I should not really be surprised -- to see the level of misogyny that lurks in these boards.
Wow.
Etc etc blah etc blah....
Yeah, actually you do. The facts are the same for all of us, regardless of whether you like them or not. -
President-elect Trump considers potential Apple manufacturing in US a 'real achievement'
Recognising the reality that 'rich guys get chicks' and that 'many chicks let them' is hardly misogyny.anantksundaram said:Incredible -- even though I should not really be surprised -- to see the level of misogyny that lurks in these boards.
Wow.
Here's real misogyny:
1. Eileen Wellstone, 19-year-old English woman who said Clinton sexually assaulted her after she met him at a pub near the Oxford where the future President was a student in 1969. A retired State Department employee, who asked not to be identified, confirmed that he spoke with the family of the girl and filed a report with his superiors. Clinton admitted having sex with the girl, but claimed it was consensual. The victim's family declined to pursue the case;2. In 1972, a 22-year-old woman told campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton, a law student at the college. No charges were filed, but retired campus policemen contacted by Capitol Hill Blue confirmed the incident. The woman, tracked down by Capitol Hill Blue last week, confirmed the incident, but declined to discuss it further and would not give permission to use her name;3. In 1974, a female student at the University of Arkansas complained that then-law school instructor Bill Clinton tried to prevent her from leaving his office during a conference. She said he groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse. She complained to her faculty advisor who confronted Clinton, but Clinton claimed the student ''came on'' to him. The student left the school shortly after the incident. Reached at her home in Texas, the former student confirmed the incident, but declined to go on the record with her account. Several former students at the University have confirmed the incident in confidential interviews and said there were other reports of Clinton attempting to force himself on female students;4. Juanita Broaddrick, a volunteer in Clinton's gubernatorial campaign, said he raped her in 1978. Mrs. Broaddrick suffered a bruised and torn lip, which she said she suffered when Clinton bit her during the rape;5. From 1978-1980, during Clinton's first term as governor of Arkansas, state troopers assigned to protect the governor were aware of at least seven complaints from women who said Clinton forced, or attempted to force, himself on them sexually. One retired state trooper said in an interview that the common joke among those assigned to protect Clinton was "who's next?". One former state trooper said other troopers would often escort women to the governor's hotel room after political events, often more than one an evening;6. Carolyn Moffet, a legal secretary in Little Rock in 1979, said she met then-governor Clinton at a political fundraiser and shortly thereafter received an invitation to meet the governor in his hotel room. "I was escorted there by a state trooper. When I went in, he was sitting on a couch, wearing only an undershirt. He pointed at his penis and told me to suck it. I told him I didn't even do that for my boyfriend and he got mad, grabbed my head and shoved it into his lap. I pulled away from him and ran out of the room."7. Elizabeth Ward, the Miss Arkansas who won the Miss America crown in 1982, told friends she was forced by Clinton to have sex with him shortly after she won her state crown. Last year, Ward, who is now married with the last name of Gracen (from her first marriage), told an interviewer she did have sex with Clinton but said it was consensual. Close friends of Ward, however, say she still maintains privately that Clinton forced himself on her.8. Paula Corbin, an Arkansas state worker, filed a sexual harassment case against Clinton after an encounter in a Little Rock hotel room where the then-governor exposed himself and demanded oral sex. Clinton settled the case with Jones recently with an $850,000 cash payment.9. Sandra Allen James, a former Washington, DC, political fundraiser says Presidential candidate-to-be Clinton invited her to his hotel room during a political trip to the nation's capital in 1991, pinned her against the wall and stuck his hand up her dress. She says she screamed loud enough for the Arkansas State Trooper stationed outside the hotel suite to bang on the door and ask if everything was all right, at which point Clinton released her and she fled the room. When she reported the incident to her boss, he advised her to keep her mouth shut if she wanted to keep working. Miss James has since married and left Washington. Reached at her home last week, the former Miss James said she later learned that other women suffered the same fate at Clinton's hands when he was in Washington during his Presidential run.10. Christy Zercher, a flight attendant on Clinton's leased campaign plane in 1992, says Presidential candidate Clinton exposed himself to her, grabbed her breasts and made explicit remarks about oral sex. A video shot on board the plane by ABC News shows an obviously inebriated Clinton with his hand between another young flight attendant's legs. Zercher said later in an interview that White House attorney Bruce Lindsey tried to pressure her into not going public about the assault.11. Kathleen Willey, a White House volunteer, reported that Clinton grabbed her, fondled her breast and pressed her hand against his genitals during an Oval Office meeting in November, 1993. Willey, who told her story in a 60 Minutes interview, became a target of a White House-directed smear campaign after she went public.
You may get a little curious about somebody being married to an individual like that and not being aware of of their behaviour.
Surely no woman could be a misogynist, right?
If you don't like reality you probably don't want to go there.
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President-elect Trump considers potential Apple manufacturing in US a 'real achievement'
He's been watching the liberal one.jlandd said:
What alternate universe have you been observing for you to reach that conclusion?However, I’ll take Trump’s partial base’s economic knowledge to the mathematical assurance that Hillary’s (et. al.) ENTIRE base does not know how the economy works.
