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DAalseth said:

pscooter63 said:

elijahg said:

While the US style plugs may be "elegant", they're actually pretty crap - especially the two prong no earth ones. If you stand on the cable near the plug, the prongs can snap off and leave live prongs stuck out. The sockets quickly wear out so that wall warts won't stay in the socket, and just drop out on the floor.

Have you experienced any of this firsthand?

I've lived in the US my whole life, over half a century, and have never come across a single instance of those scenarios.  Even electrical devices and wall sockets made well before I was born... nothing like what you describe.  Ever.

Prongs snapping off... you must be talking about some other country, because the US citizenry would not stand for that kind of shenanigans.

That is odd because I grew up in the US, lived there until I was 49, and I can tell you that @elijahg is spot on. the sockets do wear out quickly and regularly. I've moved into houses and the first thing we had to do was replace the wall sockets. That was both in Minnesota and Oregon. It is very easy to get hot and neutral reversed, most things still work, but the frame can end up hot. As far as snapping off prongs, well there have been a couple of instances I've seen. The only remedy was to replace the socket. It's usually more a function of a really cheap cord though.

_rick_v_ said:

Wow, people need to relax and dial it back a bit.

"not supported" does not equal "will stop working".

There are plenty of products, probably in most of our homes, that are no longer supported but continue to hum along just fine.  I have an old iPod that still plays music just as well as the day it was new (ok, admittedly, the battery leaves a bit to be desired).  My old AppleTV is also on the 'not supported' list, yet I'm still able to stream Netflix and Amazon Prime to my TV thru it without a hiccup.  I'm pretty sure my so-called "smart" TV's stopped receiving updates about a year after purchase.

Your Sonos will continue to work, too, with the same spec as you bought it.  But, as a 'smart' device there will be things that it can no longer support. This should be expected.  AirPlay2 may require a different chipset, for example.

EsquireCats said:

What a compelling reason not to buy Sonos.

It's reasonable to keep a home sound system for 10 years. I'm sure many of you likely have seen people keep systems for far longer than this, but for the sake of the argument it's best to cap it here.

I think this shines well on Apple's efforts to keep their devices relevant - the latest version of iOS is still supported on devices as old as the iPhone 6 (released about 4 years ago) despite the addition of significant features, and the bulk of consumers upgrading handsets between 1 and 3 years.

flydog said:

M68000 said:

Agatto said:

Not to trash Apple at all, but I wish Apple
would either wait a bit longer to release a major iOS upgrade or at least raise the bar with the quality of products and services. 

Yeah,  I hear you.  The interesting question is if the new iPhone 11 series MUST have iOS 13.  If not, it would not have to be rushed out which is apparently what happened with this new iOS.  I could be wrong but feel that Apple is a victim of it’s own success and new phones are expected like clockwork every year on a schedule.  A schedule that has to do with making Wall Street happy first.  Now we have what we have.

Apple couldn’t care less about pleasing Wall Street. Don’t be a drama queen.