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anantksundaram said:

gatorguy said:

While I don't particularly care for Samsung and their practices in this case they've handled it the way they should IMHO.  They got out in front of it, admitted almost immediately that there could be a problem rather than deny or misdirect.  Instead of delay they did the right thing and recalled the potentially affected units. Not up to "kudos to Samsung" levels but they certainly handled a bad situation responsibly.

I am willing to stand corrected, but it seems to me the only substantive comment they've made so far is to blame suppliers. 

Perhaps it's their design principles/processes and quality control that are at issue?

Did you hear about how many factory deaths Samsung has "so far ignored"?

Like there are multiple reasons to hate on Samsung, but I feel that it doesn't get quite enough hate since it holds exactly the same market-leading position in Korea as Apple does in the US (eg a leading manufacturer of popular stuff everyone has), but then again, every time I watch a K-drama I see LG stuff, not Samsung, while in the US television, you only ever see Apple stuff, or the brand is covered up.

I think we hit a wall on the "thin and light" and everyone needs to clamp back down to their iPhone6S era sizes and either make it thicker or start shipping them with a silicone 12 hour "battery" bumper that is replaceable and charged independently, and when removed the phone still has 2-4 hours of charge. That way people won't destroy their phones and instead destroy the batteries alone.

thrang said:

larrya said:

thewhitefalcon said:

blastdoor said:

This sure does have the stink of plausibility on it. 

It sure does seem that Apple is creating a significant marketing challenge for themselves. 

Including the adapter would pretty much extinguish the complaints. 

Wrong!  The cost of the dongle is almost irrelevant. It's the fact that you will never have it with you when you need it, and it's overall inelegance that offends me.  It seems acceptable on paper, but in the real world it sucks. I had a win CE phone that required one and the end result was I could not use it to listen to music. 

Once you connect the dongle, it becomes an extension of the existing headphone cable. There's no reason to separate it and leave it behind. I do that now with a 3.5 extension. Its not some complicated problem...

Yet, you can't charge your phone if you are using it to listen to music, which is the entire reason any complaints exist.

Like if I was Apple and going to pull this off, I'd put a second lightning connector on it (eg on the other side of the phone) because Nintendo long ago already proved that people will not accept having to trade off charging for headphones. What are you expected to do when you forget or lose the lightning headphones? Listen to your music on the included speaker? Hell no. Apple may assume people will accept bluetooth headphones, but I don't want yet another thing to charge. Is Apple going to waste space in the phone on a wireless charging standard? No. Not before Apple adopts a wireless charging standard for the phone itself.

Hence my point. If the 3.5mm jack goes away, that means either Apple is going to adopt wireless charging for the phone, or is going to force people to use third-party headphones which are heavier, need charging too, and far easier to lose.

fallenjt said:

If they make iPhone 7 look completely different, then they may have a chance, but too bad, iPhone 7 will look mostly the same as 6/6s. So, those users who care about the look beside internal upgrades ain't upgrade. I'll stick with my 6+ for another year. 
It's so easy for Apple to update the chassis to make it look different from previous generations like making a matching color with screen bezels for the top and bottom back sections wrapped by antenna bands (like in iPhone 5 but in metal instead of glass). They just decided not to. 

Has that ever stopped people from leasing a new car every 3 years?

Hell the depreciation on a car makes it pretty stupid to ever own a new car, just lease a new one every 2-3 years perpetually. Ooops out of a job? Now you have no car at all. Better spend $2000 on an old one and run it into the ground.

xzu said:

Apple is missing an opportunity to produce "Pro" machines. There is no reason they can't make both consumer and pro machines, other than they don't want to be bothered. Just license OS X, it runs faster and better on other peoples hardware. I have been using Macs since 1987... and I am now forced to use Windoze because of performance, it is embarrassing. Not one computer with desktop class graphics.. and no i am not counting my 2013 Mac Pro, my 2013 hackintosh runs much faster and has upgradable graphics.

I'm not willing to bother with the hackintosh. I did that initially when the Mac Pro still had a PCIe model just to see if it was viable. 

While it's probably less irritating to configure than Linux, the legality of it makes it an awful choice because it would be requiring running potentially dangerous copies of the macOS operating system obtained from unsanctioned sources. Even then, hardware support is hard to predict.

Apple really does need to do a "**** or get off the pot" when it comes to the "Pro" hardware. If they're not willing to put out serious Pro hardware, they need to either say so and axe the "pro" lines, or they need to put out some high-end upgradable hardware that gamers and professionals would envy, not feel embarrassed about.
 

evilution said:

2012 - no home button in the next iPhone.
2013 - no home button in the next iPhone.
2014 - no home button in the next iPhone.
2015 - no home button in the next iPhone.
2016 - no home button in the next iPhone.

And then when it finally comes true...

See, we told you.

I doubt we'll see the home button removed as it's a trademark part of the iPhone. The most likely thing is that mechanical buttons and the home button will get hermetically sealed and epoxied to the frame of the phone.