teejay2012

OutdoorAppDeveloper said:

The generic answer to the question "why would you want to do that" is "because I know something you don't".
In this case I can think of a large number of super cool things I could do with my iPhone if Apple did not prevent me from doing them.
It is my choice to take the risk, not Apple's and certainly not yours.

I have no problem if you want to make your phone into a table lamp. Just as long as you don't ever represent any problem that comes up as a result of your experimentation, as an Apple problem. How many times have we had to hear that an Apple charger caught fire, when in fact it was an Asian knock off with no safety circuits. You may not be one that has issues, but I can pretty much guarantee that if side loading app stores were allowed (and I hope they are never allowed), some shmuck is is going to get news time by claiming his iPhone allowed his messages to be hacked and his bank account cleaned out.. and 'what is Cook going to do about it?'. Honestly if you want flexibility and miss the wild, wild west of phone OS and apps, why not (like millions of commenters have suggested) get an Android? Some great hardware and an OS/app stores you can hack away on all night long, and you can do it without bothering the rest of us, who are happy with iOS and the app store, just the way it is.

larrya said:

You guys are pathetic.  Apple cut performance by more than 50% and didn't bother telling anyone, and yet in Apple stores customers were told their batteries were fine, even refusing to provide paid replacements, and were encouraged to purchase new phones.  This is fraud, and the prosecutor's conclusion is uncontested by Apple.  You can love their products, as I do, without wearing blinders.

I understand the logic to try and curb electronic waste but the EU should try to make a real impact by banning cheap 'disposable' phones that use Android OS and force manufactures to provide security and software updates to all phones -  like Apple does. According to Recon Analytics the average lifespan of Android phones is about 21 months compared to the average lifespan of an Apple device at just over four years. Given that Android has such a huge market share, that is a LOT of e-Waste.

If Sonos prevented my entire current system from upgrading because of one 'legacy' component, I would see that as a feature actually. That would be preferable to having most components upgraded but then no longer communicating with legacy components - which would effectively have become bricked. Sonos of late seems to care less about customer response. Many of us were not happy when Sonos stopped updating the OSX app, leaving customers to having to exclusively use iPhones to manage their systems. Also introducing VLAN issues with their latest iOS 10.6 update, with no warning of this and no mechanism to downgrade to a working firmware. Perhaps Sonos just believes that they might be bought by Apple, and less 'legacy product support baggage' will make them more attractive to buy.