mac_128

mentalrecon said:

Nobody used the smart connector because it offers limited functionality and the iPad Pro market is not very large compared to the non-pro iPad market or the iPhone market. If you are a company that makes accessories for iOS devices, are you going to dedicate your time and attention to a niche market or the mass market? Moving the connector is Apple's acknowledgement that the port is primarily just for Apple.

I see a lot of promise for the smart connector in terms of a versatile port. It could be used for charging, data, and analogue audio, assuming Apple eventually opens it up. This would be especially useful as a physical connection method on the iPhone which seems destined to become portliness in a few short years. Moving it to the bottom location on the iPad isn't really a problem, and would be an ideal location for expanding use to other peripherals -- other than possibly for those using it in Landscape mode who don't want the added bulk of a case back as the article describes, though it doesn't seem like an insurmountable problem.

clarker99 said:

The majority of people will watch the streaming service on their iPhone or iPad. Plus, IF apple did release a dongle it would be $129 and people would complain it is to expensive. 

Love my Apple TV 4K and 4th gen. Never had an issue. I just wanna watch my iTunes library, Netflix and a few other apps offered. It is simple and my kids can run it. Have them connected to HomePod via Airplay. Idk, works great for me and I know they will be supported for many years. 

When Apple released the Apple TV 4, the continued to offer the excellent, but less capable Apple TV 3 for $69. So where is all this $100+ speculation coming from?

GeorgeBMac said:

virgilisleading42 said:

Please please add a trackpad to the add on keyboard. The irony about what Craig Federighi statement: “We really feel that the ergonomics of using a Mac are that your hands are rested on a surface, and that lifting your arm up to poke a screen is a pretty fatiguing thing to do.” is that is exactly what they've created with an ipad pro because they wont allow for a trackpad or mouse to be attached just a keyboard. Please please allow us to add one Apple.

Add a trackpad?

THEY DID!   THEY DID THAT ALREADY!   (at least for typing)

While typing on either the iPhone or the iPad, hold the space bar down for a second or two and the keyboard is replaced with a touchpad.

So, now the question is:  "When will they provide that ability to an external touchpad?"

The question is no longer IF but WHEN?

Detailed instructions on how to do this are from CNBC:

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/19/how-to-use-iphone-keyboard-like-a-mouse-by-holding-space-button.html

I pointed this out earlier. This is from Apples website:

It works like a computer. And in ways most computers can’t. iPad Pro works with a keyboard when you need one. The full‑size onscreen keyboard lets you respond to an email or write a paper, and it even acts as a trackpad. And if you want a full‑size physical keyboard, just attach the Smart Keyboard Folio for a great typing experience and front and back protection.

In the first part of that pitch about the onscreen keyboard, they emphasiseze the importance of having a trackpad, yet in the second part about the keyboard folio, suddenly there’s no mention of it. Someone unfamiliar with it might assume the external keyboard likewise has a trackpad incorporated into it.

its terrible technology, and doesn’t work well at all when I’ve used it. By the time I get it to do what I want, I probably just should have pulled out a Pencil.

bhupesh said:

I've been wondering if the Marzipan project, which is described as allowing developers to bring iOS apps to the Mac, isn't also a strategy for bringing a pointing device to iOS. When they bring pointing device support to UIKit, it should work on iOS just as easily as macOS. I'd be very surprised if they don't do this. The questions is when.

Or Apple doubles down and brings a touch screen to the Mac. At this point I wouldn’t be surprised, given how conflicting their positions are. They claim a Mac can’t have a touch screen because it would be hard to use requiring a user to lift their hands off the keyboard in an unnatural position to select items, while they market an iPad with a keyboard that requires the user to do exactly that. And at the same time, they say the iPad can’t have a mouse or trackpad because it’s easier to touch the screen and use a pencil, despite marketing it for use with a keyboard, removing their fingers from the screen. So it all depends on how Apple plans to reconcile this disparity. Only allowing iOS apps to run on Macs that support touch screen displays encourages customers who want to run them to upgrade their Macs. Adding a mouse to an iPad is a much less profitable path.

macplusplus said:

mac_128 said:

lorin schultz said:

macplusplus said:

lorin schultz said:

lowededwookie said:
[...] I can edit video on an iPhone just as easily as using iMovie on the Mac

"Easily," yes. Accurately, no. Fine adjustments are difficult using a finger on a small screen.

There is Pencil for that.

He said he can edit video on an IPHONE. Did you just overlook that or does the iPhone actually support the Pencil now?

macplusplus said:
If you'd watched the Keynote you'd know or you already know that the reason to attach a 4K monitor to iPad Pro is to follow iMovie edits in real time 4K, since the iPad's own display is not 4K.

I did watch the Keynote and I didn't get that impression. To me it looked like just using one possible application among many as an example. Assuming I misunderstood and that really is Apple's sole intent, it seems like a whole lotta tech, effort, and expense for not much payoff.

Your recollection is correct — @macplusplus is wrong as usual. This is from the keynote, an Apple marketing still which inadvertently demonstrates exactly what’s wrong with not having a pointing device. Notice where her eyes are looking. Her only choice is to keep shifting her eyes from the larger display where her attention should be, to the iPad to confirm her fingers are positioned correctly for what she wants to select, then back to the display to view it. That’s not a productive solution. Yet, Apple clearly intends this as a use case with an external display.

I understand some people cannot chew and walk at the same time but that person apparently is able to select the photo on her iPad and view the full photo on the attached monitor instantly. She absolutely does not need to look at the large monitor to swipe through photos and select the photo she needs, does she? 

And you may have discovered recently with astonishment an iPad display on large screen but people do that since eight years on their TV monitors. It is called AirPlay.

Oh sure, there’s no need to look at the large, luxurious 4K display, which makes the thumbnail photos much easier to see and select — but sadly she has to look down, taking her eyes off the big beautiful display, and shift them to the much smaller iPad display, shifting her focus, reorienting her gaze, and relative position from that on the monitor, maybe even having to count the thumbnails to make sure she selects the correct one, adjusting her eyes to the different brightness of the displays, as she shifts back and forth. That’s not exactly instantaneous, far from it, and far from desirable. It’s a much less efficient way of doing that particular task. Now imagine doing it all day long if that’s your job.

But whatever fuels your narrative.

It may astonish you as well, just as your mind must be reeling from the fact that an iPad Pro still has a DA converter despite the lack of a headphone jack, that the iPad has always had the ability to output video in screen mirroring mode to a hardwired display since the original iPad, long before AirPlay was a thing. Did you have a point? I would no more expect a professional to do their job using that method than I would them streaming a compressed image to a TV.