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mdriftmeyer said:

Just draw two squares one with 20mm sides and the other with 22mm sides on a piece of paper. Cut them out and presto! Decide.

Here's the 44/42 and 40/38 comparison. Just cut the red off to get the Series 3 sizes. 

sw5959 said:

dm3 said:

They're too big. Why does Apple suddenly have a fixation with size.
If they would have kept the same 38mm size, I'd be in line for a gen4. But I don't want a bigger watch. 

Pretty soon we'll have iPhone sized watches and iPad sized phones, and they'll make a iPad the size of a laptop.... oh wait.

Seriously? A 2mm difference is too big? 1/16 of an inch? 

What won't people complain about when it comes to Apple?

This is how it stacks up, the red areas are how much larger the 44mm is compared to the 42 ... it definitely makes the watch look larger.



Now compare it to the 42mm Huawei watch ... it's now larger than the watches many were saying were too big when the Apple Watch first came out, and the Huawei still has more display area, and no bezels.

M68000 said:

It would be great if next year they come out with new SE with maybe a 4.5 screen size but in small form factor phone using the new LCD screens.  A phone like that would be awesome as far as size.  It might sell very very well.  It's hard to think they don't want market share of the millions of users who demand a smaller phone and may just have to go elsewhere if they can't get iPhone in smaller size.   They could then remove the iPhone 7 at that point.   As it is now, the best value may be the 8 model.  It still has awesome A11 chip and wireless charging.  It also has amazing speakers.  People who don't have this phone think it was not a real upgrade from the 7.

Yeah, I'm a bit surprised they are pulling it completely at this point. Didn't they just build a factory in India specifically to produce the SE? I mean, they could continue to sell it internationally in some territories as they did with the 4s and 5c, but a whole factory? Is it being converted to produce another model, or is there a new "SE" coming in the Spring?

GeorgeBMac said:

mac_128 said:

GeorgeBMac said:

Unrelated to their history...

Can AirPods and their smart chip connect to non-Apple Bluetooth devices?
Specifically, my grandson would like to use a pair with his bluetooth X-Box controller so he can hear the game and talk with fellow gamers.  But we don't know if the AirPods would connect and work with it since its not an Apple product?

What does he use now?

I’d also like to know whether the BT X-Box controller uses aptx low latency, or some other low latency protocol to reduce the lag time, both from the controller and then any audio device connected to the controller.

Apple keeps movies in sync by buffering the video in relation to the audio. But that won’t work with video games which need instantaneous sync, nor will it work with third party devices for any AV application. Even Apple will not allow you to use the BT connection with AirPods over the Apple TV for gaming. Since the AirPods don’t use aptx at all, much less low latency, I’d be surprised if the BT connection with the AirPods to the Xbox controller would be acceptable for gameplay sync. That’s your first concern. Pairing is the least of it.

Currently he is using wired headphones that plug into the audio jack of his X-Box controller.   But he has been asking about the AirPods -- which even if it could work would require a controller that enables bluetooth audio.

Thanks for the info!

Right. That’s what I thought. There’s no lag with wired headphones on the BT controller, which then likely uses a low latency connection with the Xbox, relaying both audio and keystrokes in sync within an acceptable wireless time delay. Adding the AirPods, even if the controller allows BT audio sync, would add lag between the controller and the AirPods; and even if it were a low latency connection, would introduce more lag with the audio than is already inherent in the controller/box connection, and out of sync with the keystrokes. Given that the AirPods aren’t low latency, this would probably be intolerable. 

claire1 said:

AI_lias said:

claire1 said:

fastasleep said:

mikethemartian said:

Years ago I went into a Best Buy to buy an Airport Express and noticed that they were actually charging more than what it cost at the Apple Store. So I always avoided buying Apple merchandise from Best Buy after that. What I do buy there are the adapters since I usually need them quickly.

I stopped going there after I bought my plasma TV ten years ago and the guy kept trying to sell me an $80 gold HDMI cable because it made a sharper picture. I asked how that could possibly be given it's a digital connection, and he just stared at me. 

For the musicians out there:
Best Buy is the electronic equivalent to Guitar Center.

AI_lias said:

I admire Apple for having the cajones, before anyone else in the industry did, to leave behind people who still want to charge their phones at the same time as listening to the headphones (whether phone calls or music), and having yet another worry in the back of their mind about the battery lasting until they're done, or carrying and plugging in an adapter. Only Apple was in a position to do this, no one else could have pulled it off.

Get out of here with your media-inspired BS.
I hate how suddenly everyone listens to music while iPhone charges. I don't remember anyone doing that uncomfortable, tangled, 2-wire practice before iPhone removed the jack.

Reminds me of a stupid youtube video that said iPhone made your wired headphones junk. They literally said that.....

People have been charging and using headphones all along. You just now hear about it more, which proves the point that it’s a basic use case. But now, it’s not 2 cables, it’s 3: 1 dongle and 2 cables. 

Or it was all the anti-Apple propaganda crap (See: Bendgate) that made people exaggerate the problem.

cgWerks said:

claire1 said:
"I do it every time I go for a longer-than-few-minute drive in the car."

My goodness that sounds tedious.
 
What I bolded in your comment is actually VERY very very common, which is why I always though "wireless" charging was dumb, especially when Sammy bragged about it. Which is also why I believe Apple will remove the lightning port but add a Watch-style clip-on charger that clips to the Apple logo or the whole back of their devices. OF course before they actually crack real wireless charging.

But handling 2 cords just to listen to music is ridiculous and never heard of anyone doing it until Apple removed the headphone jack and morons(not you specifically) suddenly parroted the meme against Apple.

"In terms of Apple-stupid, removing the 3.5mm jack ranks right up there near the top. "
Kinda how they were stupid for removing the floppy disk drive, the CD Rom drive, SCSI Drive, Mobile Keyboard etc. etc.

"No but this time's different!"
Heard it before too.

Much easier than spending $50k for a newer car, which probably wouldn't solve the problem anyway. I suppose I could use a BT adapter and only have 1 cable, but it's not much harder to plugin in 2 than 1, and I get better audio quality that way. And, if I didn't plug power in, then the phone goes to 'sleep' unless I go in and change settings (which is a bigger hassle). Also, if using navigation and playing podcasts, etc. it's nice to have it all charged up when I get to my destination.

So, I guess I have to ask... what's the alternative I'm missing?

re: wireless charging - Yeah, I suppose a 'mag-safe' like cord/disc could be a reasonable charging solution. But, there are many other uses for Lightning (or whatever DATA port is there). But, seeing Apple thinks a 3.5mm jack is 'legacy' maybe efficiently/reliably transferring data is too? I don't put about any level of silliness above Apple these days.  And, I hope they never crack 'real' wireless charging, as that just sounds scary.

re: 2 cords - Like I said, my wife and son do it all the time. It isn't just to listen to music either, but watching YouTube or playing a game, etc. My son especially does this, as we often don't want to hear all his gaming noise (so make him wear headphones), and the games suck the battery down. I guess I thought I was actually the unusual one, as I'm disciplined about charging every night and use low-power consumption apps and settings, turn my wifi/cell off when not needed, etc.

re: floppy vs 3.5mm jack - not even in the same ballpark. 3.5mm jacks are still widely in use, and I see no reason they won't be for a long time. They are also mechanically superior to Lightning, which is important on devices people tend to put into pockets (assuming you see the dongle as a solution to the lost compatibility).

Re: Lightining transfers:
This isn't 2008, you can transfer everything over wifi or data now.  I don't wanna have to pull out a cord, turn on my Mac, open iTunes, connect everything etc. just do download a song like it's 2008. Apple is moving forward.

Again the 2 cord thing sounds ridiculous and tedious. Cords have always been a problem that people were too afraid to solve. Ever had your device fly because your cord was caught onto something? I don't even like playing on my keyboard with headphones because the cord gets on the keys and in my way. There are bluetooth adaptors for legacy headphones but thank Apple, because their moves are forcing lazy headphone developers to make advancements in Bluetooth. Do you think in 2025 people are gonna be connected by wires to listen to music? Not at all.

Re:Lightning Transfers — why do you go back to the most elemental use of a song transfer from iTunes to an iPod from 2006? It’s disingenuous, and ignores the fact that an iPhone can have as much as 256GB of storage now. It takes the better part of a morning to backup my iPhone via Lightning and iTunes, especially if I have to switch out several movies, TV shows and playlists. I have my iPhone set to backup wirelessly to iTunes, but that could take more than a day. With that it should be clear why a person would need to plug in an iPhone via Lightning to transfer data, and prefer that method over Any wireless options currently available.

Re: headphone cords — you clearly don’t multitrack record anything on your keyboard where you have to play along with a previous pass. Moreover, the latency between the attack of the keys to the time you hear the sound in BT headphones is not acceptable to any musician, much less professional ones. Singing is worse.  Cords are not desirable, but they are still a necessary evil until the latency issue is solved, something which Apple appears to be doing nothing about with their own products, nor do they support aptx LL devices natively. Two cords are important for anyone spending any time with an iOS device, for something like playing and recording music. A charger needs to be plugged into the iPhone, simultaneously with a midi device, or guitar, mic, etc., as well as headphones.

People might not be connected by wires in 2025 to listen to music, but unless they solve the latency issues, then anyone playing or performing music sure will. As far as Apples contribution to this development by removing the headphone jack, I have only to look at the pile of BT gear I had been using over the last decade to see the steady and rapid advancement by third party developers long before Apple found the courage to remove the headphone jack. I’m not saying Apple did the wrong thing, but it does come at a cost. Even Apple has not fully replaced all of the common use functionality of the headphone jack they removed with their solutions. Two people can’t even wirelessly stream the same song or movie from one device to two separate pair of headphones at the same time, much less play Heart and Soul together on a keyboard over them.