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macxpress said:

Good...now people can stop whining about the lack of Canadian ApplePay support! 

dewme said:

 The tactical approach chosen demonstrates that there is someone in the current administration whose has a personal vendetta against Apple that they view as being more important than solving the actual problem at hand.  

There’s only one thing we know for sure about all of this. The FBI wants a backdoor to encryption and have demonstrated that they will use every sleazy trick in the book and then some to get what they want, including repeatedly lying and demonizing a fine upstanding corporation by even enlisting the unwitting help of the uninformed masses through disinformation, fear mongering and demagoguery. All the rest is speculation.

The lies started from the very beginning. We know some of the obvious ones and the documented admissions, that it was ‘just about this phone’ and ‘not asking for a backdoor’ and “need Apple’s help’. From there, we can only speculate that they may have had the information from the get-go through MDM and found what most of us here suspected all along, nothing. The password reset may have been a true incompetent mistake or deliberate sabotage to further their case. They’ve had a solution to this through long-time contractors, using the NAND mirroring technique well-known in security circles, or surprisingly found a fortuitous hack at the midnight hour. They actually hacked the phone or destroyed it in the process. They found nothing and/or will claim national security for not revealing anything.

It is therefore difficult to conclude by their past behaviour that this is the end of it, they’ll be back. We can only hope this will not embolden terrorists for another fiercer attack with the specific new goal this time of terrorizing the same uninformed masses to willingly yield their private security to the FBI and give them a backdoor to all the good peoples’ phone, all the while leaving the FBI to confront a different 3rd party encryption on top of the terrorist phones, ‘carelessly’ left behind at the scene.

The FBI are unscrupulously willing to sacrifice the national, corporate and private security of all of us just to make their job a little easier. I sympathize with them, I want them to have the best tools available under the law, but not at the expense of our security against cyber threats. I understand that policing is hard, but that’s the job. A policeman’s job is only easy in a police state — A line from Orson Welles’s Touch of Evil.

CMA102DL said:

msuberly said:

For anyone that thinks is "good news" for Apple, you have it completely backwards. First, the government has complete discretion to extract data from your phone and Apple is powerless to do anything about it. Second, now that the government has succeeded in extracting data, every government on the planet will seek to do the same. 

wait, this is a happy ending here. The Govt was able to "get" the data they were looking for in the phone and Apple did not supply a backdoor. This was likely a hardware hack. There was no backdoor, which means that your data and mine are secure. The Govt. can't leak this. Plus, I expect the FBI to be able to perform a search when warranted.

Exactly, this is indeed a happy outcome if true, and frankly I don’t mind this hardware approach by law enforcement as it requires possession, and must be by court order, of the device along with some disassembly required, most likely destructive. Good luck with the 64 bit secure enclave in the future with stronger techniques. This outcome is not unlike a house search under warrant looking for secret compartments and is very different than a backdoor software approach, unbeknownst to our clueless first commenters and other trolls. Nobody wants govtOS with unfettered remote sensing.

I also believe that terrorist IT people are aware of this technique and ordered the shooters to completely demolish their personal phones for good measure, even though they were most likely encrypted as well, which also furthers the point that there is nothing of value on the iPhone 5c and that indeed this whole thing is a sham.

And while I’m still in a ranting mood :

As of this article, AppleInsider now has exactly 100 (5 pages of 20) articles on this subject grouped with this link :

Encryption Debate posts on AppleInsider

Still growing and very convenient, thank you. However :

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I think it is long overdue to finally stop naming that bastard by name in every single f#@%&ng article. I do not write down or utter terrorist or mass murderer names, I wish all news media would do the same but I'm not going to hold my breath. I believe that referring to them by their savage act is sufficient identification and for most people probably and hopefully more recognizable. In this particular case, I think we’ll all understand San Bernardino terrorists, or maybe shooters for the PC pussies. I just wish it would be mass media policy that in the beginning they may identify them in the first reports of course, but refrain to repeat it ad nauseam in the following weeks and months. This is the internet after all and it will remain searchable for quite some time if need be and someone really really really wants to know for some godawful reason. They may be celebrated by their masters and their ilk elsewhere but they are not martyrs here and these animals should be stripped of any human dignity starting with their identity. The only other names that should be mentioned afterwards, only with their families' consent obviously, should be the victims. They are the only names that should be remembered.
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