maestro64

He's pissed we wasted the companies money fighting this case and wants another go at it since his lawyers suck and he need to find new one.

sdw2001 said:

maestro64 said:

This is what the stock drop $4 after this ruling, this means apple is could be cut out of profits of the apps when developers place a payment method in their app to turn things on and get rid of ads.

How many of you want you credit card information stored over lots of different companies servers. I personally limit how many places have my credit card information. As much as I hate Amazon it make doing transaction easy. I also have CC information with Paypal which many cite accept so I pay with Paypal and they hand the transaction and none of my personal information is stored on third part cites. Think about all the website who have been hacked over the years.

I don't think that's true at all.  Nothing says Apple isn't entitled to the revenue cut.  It will just be a matter of transparency and accounting.  Nothing says they can't charge developers who do this a fee, either.  Apple could add to its policies a provision that 3rd party payment systems incur a 10% surcharge automatically as a risk adjustment, and require quarterly disclosure of 3rd party sales that would have normally gone through the app store.   

True, apple could say they still get the cut if you process the payment else, but there is already precedence against this, Neflix is one of them, Apple does not get a cut of any payment you make to Netflix even though you down loaded the apple from the app store and you do to Netflix website and setup the recurring payments. If Apple tried to make developers pay they would just reference that already do not collect a commission for outside the system payments. It a catch 22 for Apple and the developers. 

We will have to see how this plays out.

This is what the stock drop $4 after this ruling, this means apple is could be cut out of profits of the apps when developers place a payment method in their app to turn things on and get rid of ads.

How many of you want your credit card information stored over lots of different companies servers. I personally limit how many places have my credit card information. As much as I hate Amazon it make doing transaction easy from a lot of different vendors. I also have CC information with Paypal which many cite accept so I pay with Paypal and they hand the transaction and none of my personal information is stored on third part cites. Think about all the website who have been hacked over the years. When Apple came out with tokenization of CC transaction in Apple Pay i was all in since no company would every have the actual CC number so it can not be stolen.

I wonder if Apple would just make up the loose here by charging Develops to use the store or the developer tools. I could see they doing one time fees to set up an app on the store and fee to verify the app work properly and soo, Apple could fee the developers to no end.

GeorgeBMac said:

This whole episode is a reflection on modern day America.

Employees who think they should (and can) decide what the work place should be.

It's the same as employees and citizens saying:  "Nobody can tell me what to do or not do -- especially not my government".

It is a breakdown of society masquerading as freedom and independence.   The society that made America Great.

At one point, employees who didn't like their working conditions enough to obstruct the company were gunned down.  And, if that didn't work then state and federal militias were brought in to restore "peace and stability".

That was one extreme.  It seems that we are now bouncing off the the other wall.

Actually, it the same group of people who think they have right to tell companies how to run their business are the same people tell people what they can and can not say and demanding the government to tell everyone what they can and can not do.

The people who are saying you can not tell me what to do, is not in the above group. 

As person who has work for a number of small to large high tech companies through my career and managed a department and see my fair share of people challenges. Also i watch companies go trough the good and bad times and watch how people respond to those changes. I can say at no time does an employee has any right to tell a company how to run its business. The only reason companies today are caving to these issues is the fact we have labor shortage lots of companies are fighting over the same group of workers and companies know it cost lots to replace someone. If companies need to act like they care about what employees think to keep the majority of them, the companies plays along. 

Also you mention a time in our country when employee/company violence broke out, and this specifically happen in Pittsburgh where I grew up, I know the history well, my grandfather worked in those mills. This was different time when Companies owned everything even many of the homes the worker lived in and at the time in Pittsburgh the only industries was Steel related and Coal and there was only a couple companies who owned it all. Worker did not have choose, and they could not easily move to some where else and there was a constant influx of new labor from overseas. Today people have choose if you do not like one company go to another. However, in high tech many people are over paid for what the do and when they try to change because they do not like where they now work the find out they have take pay cut and they do not like that or they just go to another company with high expectation for the pay you are getting.

Hasn't epic heard they can now set up their own store in Korea and sell at whatever price they like.