danox

gatorguy said:

avon b7 said:

Sounds like a more marketing focused play to push the privacy and latency angles. Assuming the rumour is true. 

That's certainly one way to do it but isn't without its own issues. Limited scope and how many older iPhones can make decent use of it for example. 

We'll have to wait and see how they announce it because other options from multiple vendors will remain open to iOS users anyway (perhaps some will be monetised through usage or subscription options).

There will also need to be a range of models to play off. 

NLU, NLG are obviously two key areas. Image related AI will probably require an improvement too.

Hallucination is a property of AI models and won't go away in that sense. Hallucination is even desired in many scenarios. 

The problem is that there are obviously scenarios where you would prefer not to have it. I believe that can be done quite well but normally requires the model to sit within another model etc, upping resource usage. 

It's much the same way the most recent Pixel phones do it. Most of the (Generative) AI functions happen on device, a privacy-friendly approach. Computationally intensive features and web search are processed "in the cloud" for obvious reasons.  I think Apple will be following the same path, but be better at marketing the privacy of the on-device portions of the system than Google is. 

CortoMaltese said:

Perhaps it is time for Apple to offer an iPhone with real cutting-edge technology and a new design instead of having almost
the same case for 10 years.
I admit that the latest ads for Samsung made me want to change my phone.

Apples pathway is on the edge (vertical computer companies can do that) while Samsung, Google, Microsoft, Meta are designing for the nebulous cloud. I don't think it is a bonus to use a s24 to phone home to the cloud and git an answer to your prayers three and half to four hours later. 

Apple has been designing NPUs into their SOCs, to use actual AI-driven features for sometime, in addition Apple has included LiDAR in the Apple Vision which has also been in their iPhones/iPads for the last four years and it plays a big part in supplying data for so-called AI functions at the edge.

https://www.tomsguide.com/phones/google-pixel-phones/i-tested-video-boost-on-the-pixel-8-pro-heres-the-results Four hours to get a answer.......

https://www.androidpolice.com/video-boost-pixel-8-pro-review/ Phone home to the cloud.....

https://technastic.com/galaxy-ai-features-samsung/ Many of the the so-called AI features require phoning home (note the long list of user unfriendly instructions).

Note: the blasé attitude about phoning home for AI features how does that work being away from a cell tower/WiFi connection with a mobile device sending and waiting multiple hours for a response back? Apple definitely isn't on that user experience pathway incredible.

The willingness to design and release a phoning home AI solution and think that is an acceptable user experience pretty much highlights the difference between Apple and their competition and it also clearly highlights the strength of the Apple Silicon SOC'S.

tht said:

This story happens every year for like the last 10 years at least. Can’t believe it is making the rounds. Like, does no one remember?

gatorguy said:

danox said:

All you need to do is give us (Google) your details its free..........

https://safety.google/photos/

Google Photos doesn't sell your photos, videos, or personal information to anyone.  Google also does not use your photos and videos for advertising/monetization. They are treated as private information.