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jdw said:

I could have told you that, even before Mr. Lee's findings....

The tests done by this Youtuber don't prove much. Adobe is known for not optimising for the Mac, meaning it simply ports its Windows code across using cross-platform frameworks to speed up the job. This makes it very inefficient. It may not use many threads as a result and the frameworks may be so slow they cause the processor to stall at times (hence the disparity between Windows and macOS). 

I use the 2017 15" MBP (i7-7820HQ, Radeon 560Pro, 512GB SSD). I use it for both work and home running VMWare Fusion Pro with RHEL 7.x Linux and Windows 10 VMs (simultaneously) as well as Xcode (albeit only for script and HTML) and the usual half dozen other assorted apps (Word, Mail, Safari, Firefox, MS Lync etc). It never throttles. Sure, the fans spool up when under load, but still runs to spec.

Finally, anonymous nobodies on YouTube have a vested interest in increasing traffic to their channel and so are prepared to do what's necessary to achieve that end. Slagging off Apple (for any reason), is guaranteed click-bait. I would wait for a testing done by more legit sites like Ars Technica or Annandtech using proper scientific methodology before I draw a conclusion on the current gen. I find it hard to believe Apple didn't thoroughly test the design under load before release.

danvm said:

chasm said:

Max probably knows this, but for some reason it got left out of this video/article:

1. The 2017 MBP introduced a modified version of the butterfly keyboard that significantly lowers the risk of damage/service need (according to Mike Wuerthele's article focused on the 2016 MBP), so a 2018 model will probably improve on that further based on further understanding of where the 2016 one caused issues. For people who hate low-travel keys, you are not likely to notice much if any change. Apple is not giving up on the butterfly design because it is better in most ways, so get real about this.

A butterfly design that have changed two times since 2015 (could it change again in 2018?), that has quality issues and an awful tactile feedback is no something I'll consider better in most ways, as you said. 

I have both a 2012 15” MBPr (handed down to the kids) and a 2017 model (the top one with the Radeon 560pro) so I’m in a direct position to compare them.

I greatly prefer the 2017 model’s keyboard, it’s crisper and just feels sharper. The 2012 model, while I loved it, feels mushy and soft now by comparison.

The Touchbar is far more useful to me than the old function keys ever were. I use it in everything from the Finder to XCode to VMWare Fusion. While your mileage may vary, I much prefer it to the old keys. And the big touch pad is awesome, a great improvement over an already good touchpad.

the improvements I’d like to see is Apple kicking Intel to the kerb and using its own CPU design so that it doesn’t suffer intel’s incompetence any longer. Apple’s A series have supported LPDDR4 since the A8!

I’d also like to see them add haptic feedback to the TouchBar to make it more naturally responsive.

And maybe add Pencil support since the touchpad should be big enough to handle it spaciouly. 

Overall, I love the new model, but I understand that others don’t. The only negative to me is the reduced battery size. But that’s the trade off that comes with reducing the size and weight, which I love since I carry it around a lot.

Apple management have an equation they use, if 80% love a product, 10% neutral and the remaining 10% hate, then they’ll go with the 80. All their comments since the release of the new MBPs in 2016 indicates that’s the case. No matter how loud and noisy the hate may get. So there’s no turning back.

I moved from NAB to ANZ (the only one offering Apple Pay in Aus) specifically so I could use it. Use it with the Apple Watch, which is super convenient.

The banks here in Aus behave in a manner not far removed from organised scammers. They routinely defraud customers in the insurance and investment spaces and then when caught out, deny culpability and drag out the legal processes until the victims are exhausted (financially and emotionally). And the conservative (believe it or not, they call themselves Liberal here) government works principally for them and other big companies and against the broad public interest and refuses to hold an official inquiry (Royal Commission) into their behaviour.

So its good to finally see them lose something, especially to Apple. Last thing I would want to see is this mob compromise iPhone security with their incompetence, stupidity and avarice...