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GeorgeBMac said:

larryjw said:

seankill said:

FPRoyal said:

There's no way this thing doesn't run some version of ios. I realize we may not like it, but Apple currently has basically two product lines: one of them is synonymous with success and money and the other has been on some version of life support since its inception.

Especially on the low end, Apple sells MacBooks to college freshman who have their whole lives invested in their iPhone, but who use their Mac *exclusively* to "run" googledocs.  And if a file ever does download to their harddrive, they have no idea how to find it.

 If this thing runs iOS, it’ll never get my dollar. iOS is great for what it is but still sucks compared to Windows or MacOS when doing serious work. Just shifting files around on iOS is a nightmare. 

The day MacOS goes, is the day I’ll buy my last MAC. 

You seem to be putting a lot of stock in the mere names used for operating systems. Any well-architected software allows supporting multiple hardware architectures by moving pieces of the OS to different platforms. Apple can call it anything they like. 

Well, no.   The difference in iOS and MacOS is not just the name.

iOS was derived from MacOS in order to create a simple, basic OS suitable to a mobile device.

MacOS remains a more complex powerful OS with additional capabilities not well suited to a mobile device.

While they have a fair amount of overlap (particularly as you get into iPadOS), they are not the same and are not meant to be the same.  They serve different purposes.

GeorgeBMac said:

So, what does this mean for Intel?

They can't do modems.

They aren't that great at doing GPU's

They're CPUs can be replaced.

In a similar situation 40 years ago U.S. Steel bought an oil company and National Steel bought a drug distribution business.

So, what should Intel diversify into?

gentooguy said:

knowitall said:

It would be nice to have FaceTime on Android. We could bin Zoom and WhatsApp in that case.

I disagree. I am a multi-platform open source guy. While I believe that major platforms should allow a high degree of interoperability with others - which iOS does - they should reserve the right to reserve platform exclusives for the benefit of themselves and their customers. And as someone who likes, uses and defends Google products allow me to state that Apple's dominance with FaceTime and iMesssage are Google's own fault. Google had EXCELLENT messaging products for years and just needed to develop and promote them. Instead, they trashed them and any strategy they might have had in order to promote this failed attempt to create a social network to compete with Facebook (which is being abandoned by the very young people that overwhelmingly prefer iPhones and iPads and love Facetime and iMessage). I repeat: Google was in this space with great apps before the iPhone even came out (remember Google Chat and Google Talk?) and then when they launched Android they launched Google Voice and Google Messenger with them. All of them worked outstanding, Chat/Talk/Voice linked with Gmail had desktop and web versions too. All Google needed to do was promote those and add new features to it in order to have a comprehensive multi-platform messaging product and strategy built around those and their already existing integration with Chrome and Gmail. But they trashed it all in a failed attempt to compete with Facebook and haven't had a coherent strategy or common set of apps since. I was actually using Google Voice to make and receive calls from on my iPod Touch over Wi-Fi back in the day, including using it to dial into Webex for work. Worked great. To this day Google hasn't advertised how great Google Voice is, yet they wasted billions trying to prop up Google+ and Google Hangouts. Maybe it is for the best. Had Chat/Talk(which offered video!)/Voice/Messenger reached its potential, Google might have gotten "too big" bringing the DOJ hammer down on it. Apple, for all its prowess, has most of its services locked into its own hardware ecosystem which makes them impervious to anti-trust claims to everyone but haters of Apple and haters of American capitalism (even if Apple is the brand of choice among the Bernie-and-Elizabeth social democrat crowd but that is another story for another day).