knowitall

crowley said:

knowitall said:

cropr said:

wizard69 said:

cropr said:

Using the Mac for cloud development, this could become an issue for me.  All major cloud providers are using an Intel architecture. 

If Apple would move the whole Mac product line away from Intel there is absolutely no reason to keep a Mac as a development machine.   A Dell XPS with Ubuntu will not only have the price advantage (the current situation), but also the ease of use and speed advantage.

My use case is of course only limited to a few percent of the market, but it could anyhow jeopardize the market share of Macs

Seriously if you are a developer you should already know that the architecture of the processor in the cloud is not a big deal.  Most of those machines run Linux anyways and do so with specific feature (software) support on those systems.  I really don’t see an issue for cloud developers as long as you still have MacOS on the box and the freedom to install your favorite (cloud providers) software. 

Apparently you have no clue about cloud developing.  Currently I develop locally, launching a set of Docker containers on a my development machine. The containers can run at almost native speed because the Mac has an Intel architecture.   If Apple moves fully away from Intel, it is not sure I can run those Docker containers on the new architecture, and even if Apple provides the necessary tools to eventually run these containers, they will run much slower and not hassle free.    Like I said, A Dell XPS with Ubuntu will have the price advantage, the ease of use and speed advantage.

Apparently you have no clue about computers.
Docker seems completely cpu architecture agnostic, it's the aim of the project ...
Get your facts straight: https://www.docker.com/blog/getting-started-with-docker-for-arm-on-linux/

Aims and achievements are different things.  The article you're linked to explains how you can build for multiple architectures, but if you're reliant on containers from other vendors there's certainly no guarantee that they've followed this advice.  Much as there's no guarantee that developers will recompile Mac Apps for ARM, even if Apple makes it as easy as humanly possible.

cropr said:

wizard69 said:

cropr said:

Using the Mac for cloud development, this could become an issue for me.  All major cloud providers are using an Intel architecture. 

If Apple would move the whole Mac product line away from Intel there is absolutely no reason to keep a Mac as a development machine.   A Dell XPS with Ubuntu will not only have the price advantage (the current situation), but also the ease of use and speed advantage.

My use case is of course only limited to a few percent of the market, but it could anyhow jeopardize the market share of Macs

Seriously if you are a developer you should already know that the architecture of the processor in the cloud is not a big deal.  Most of those machines run Linux anyways and do so with specific feature (software) support on those systems.  I really don’t see an issue for cloud developers as long as you still have MacOS on the box and the freedom to install your favorite (cloud providers) software. 

Apparently you have no clue about cloud developing.  Currently I develop locally, launching a set of Docker containers on a my development machine. The containers can run at almost native speed because the Mac has an Intel architecture.   If Apple moves fully away from Intel, it is not sure I can run those Docker containers on the new architecture, and even if Apple provides the necessary tools to eventually run these containers, they will run much slower and not hassle free.    Like I said, A Dell XPS with Ubuntu will have the price advantage, the ease of use and speed advantage.

mcdave said:

tundraboy said:

I don't believe it one bit.  Shifting laptops to ARM won't gain even one new Apple customer.  Closing down Intel Macs will lose a lot of customers, especially corporates.  It's a good thing that Apple is not run by pure tech geeks who understand only the technical aspects of the industry and nothing else.

Why? Most corporates use PCs as browser hosts or RDP terminals. Macs are way more compatible with corporate computing than people think.