bobjohnson

tjwolf said:

I don't buy that.  I have used ApplePay at several merchants (e.g. Harris Teeter) where the chip cards were still disabled, but where I could use NFC.  So it doesn't seem that EMV is required for ApplePay to work.

rob55 said:

As for Apple Pay requiring EMV compatibility to work, my personal experience seems to suggest otherwise. 

"Apple Pay conforms to the latest EMV standards for tokenizing transactions, which leads to a more secure payment experience. With the EMV shift, merchants should update their terminals to support the latest software, which should also include NFC (near field communication), so you can accept Apple Pay and other contactless transactions." -- https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205645

Just because the reader is disabled doesn't mean that the terminal, the merchant's backend, and the processor are not running EMV.

anantksundaram said:

While it's nice to know, what the public thinks about this issue is not terribly relevant. It's not like the founding fathers (yes, they were 'fathers') went around polling people on which parts of the Bill of Rights they liked and which they did not.

Public perception is extremely important in a battle like this; it's not 1791 anymore. If you want Congress to pass strict restrictions, you better make damn sure they know there will be electoral consequences for voting the wrong way.

mjtomlin said:

iPhone...
• iPhone 5s: Discontinued
• iPhone SE: Upgraded iPhone 5s to an A8 SoC for TouchID support.
• iPhone 6s mini: 4" variant of the 6s - all the same features.

I hate to break this to you, but the 5s already has TouchID.

tallest skil said:

bobjohnson said:

If you're seriously telling me you have never, ever tapped/bumped/slightly nudged anything with your car in 1.2 million miles, then you should clearly be a professional racing driver.

Oh, I know they’re not solely reliant on it, but isn’t the LiDAR still notoriously inaccurate?

LiDAR in this context approaches sub-centimeter accuracy. They're collecting >1M points per ~1 second.

tallest skil said:

bobjohnson said:

1 accident per 1.2 million driven miles -- how's your record?

Better than that.

The point is that a single GPS satellite failure (since there aren’t any redundancies anymore) will endanger anyone who uses these vehicles, and there will be no way for them to regain control (since they won’t even have manual controls). Never mind people who are now stranded somewhere because their vehicles wouldn’t start up.

If you're seriously telling me you have never, ever tapped/bumped/slightly nudged anything with your car in 1.2 million miles, then you should clearly be a professional racing driver.

Also, autonomous vehicles do not rely on GPS, because it's phenomenally inaccurate in most urban environments (or under trees, in tunnels...). The onboard computer stores high-resolution maps locally, and they are continuously scanning their surroundings with LiDAR and visual cameras to reconcile what they see with what they're supposed to see. Contrary to apparently popular belief, the people building these things aren't idiots.