theotherphil

gatorguy said:

theotherphil said:

I’m not sure why this is even a story. Every company has to follow the local laws of the country it is operating in. This doesn’t stop Apple providing the very best privacy and security that those local laws allow.

It's a story only because there is no requirement that Apple do business in China if they find the requirements too onerous. Yes Apple is a for-profit, and on balance the money to be made from business there outweighs any compromise of their stated "core values". Profit is profit is profit, no apologies needed.  

If they took major issue with the privacy of Chinese citizens or thought it important enough to make a statement, take a stand, they would. That's not generally what American corporations do, nor what stockholders expect. China won't change just because Apple doesn't like it. They're big but not THAT big. 

Indeed, it’s easy to sow racism towards China and their culture but it’s convenient to ignore the privacy violations of western countries such as the 5 eyes security agencies. Pretty much every trans global internet cable comes into the UK and is tapped at source by the GCHQ. They’re doing real-time storage and 30 day data retention of pretty much the entire worlds internet and phone communications (code name Tempora). This is then shared amongst the 5 eyes intelligence community. The US doesn’t have to spy on it’s own citizens when the UK does it for them.

I’m not sure why this is even a story. Every company has to follow the local laws of the country it is operating in. This doesn’t stop Apple providing the very best privacy and security that those local laws allow.

As a developer, you can use whatever payment processor you like and keep all profits yourself all whilst targeting every iOS device right now….no legislation needed. Progressive Web Apps (PWA’s) are supported both on iOS and Android. This gives developers the option of not using Apple’s App Store and saving themselves 30% if they have their own payment processing, marketing, discovery, worldwide tax reporting, local payment methods and multiple currency support etc, etc.

https://www.simicart.com/blog/progressive-web-apps-examples/

It’s a really good story until you get to the part that Epic only had side loading of Fortnite on Android in the early days to avoid paying Google. The problem was, not many users wanted to side load so Epic relented and placed the App on the Play Store. Then, even though there are multiple app stores on Android, Epic software is available in only one - the official Google Play Store.

So much for consumer choice. What Epic want is their own Epic Store on iOS without paying any fees to Apple.

As an Apple customer, I don’t want my experience to be like Android...which is the sole reason I bought into the Apple ecosystem.

killroy said:

"Developers will also be required to ask a user for consent before obtaining their location"

That old bugaboo, consent. There goes find my wife or find my 16 year old kid.

You can do that easily if they all have iOS devices and you have a family iCloud account. We use it all the time and is great for scheduling events/ reminders.