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luxetlibertas said:

There doesn't seem to be any proof of misconduct by Huawei.

rotateleftbyte said:

A worldwide depression could be on the cards all because of one man with tiny hands.

I'm conservative but not a Trump fan, but let's be honest here: China has been a rogue player in world markets for many years now and U.S. presidents (including the Lord and Savior Barack Obama, He Who Did No Wrong) have talked a big talk about doing something about it while sitting on their hands. It's not Trump's fault everyone else kicked the can down the road. Do you honestly expect the U.S. and the rest of the world to just tolerate China's blatant and systematic IP theft, currency manipulation and bad faith trade practices? The current situation was inevitable thanks to the Chinese, and would only have continued to get worse over time.

This news isn’t good for Apple.  It harms Apple’s China business at lot more than it harms Huawei’s US business.

What is Huawei long-term without Google? Ripping off hardware design/industrial design is easy. But software? What non-Chinese buyer will want a Huawei device with some half-assed Chinese version of Android? Remember Tizen? The combination of “free” (read: stolen) hardware design, free software (Android), and the ability to undercut all competitors in pricing is the only reason Chinese smartphone makers are even a thing. Like nearly all Chinese products, they are cheap counterfeits made viable to the marketplace only by Google/Android. Until now. 

I’m actually amazed Google is doing the right thing here. After all, they’ve been fueling Asian knockoff artists (including Samsung) since Android 1.0, at the expense of/on the backs of American companies and American innovation. Remember how Google bought one of the last remaining American mobile device companies (Motorola), only to mine their patents before dumping the company off on the Chinese? All to build a mobile market share monopoly to feed their sweet, sweet digital surveillance advertising business.

Now all that remain are Apple and, surprise, Google. Who, like Microsoft before them, found it worthwhile to stab their hardware “partners” in the back by jumping into the hardware market themselves for some potentially-lucrative double-dipping.

Google are scum, but at least they’re doing the right thing here. For once. 

There is ZERO reason Apple should not have the dominant market position in home automation/voice assistance right now, versus being a 3rd-place afterthought to Google and Amazon. Particularly with the slam-dunk marketing message of privacy protection and the market dominance of Apple Watch in wearables. Where are the Apple-branded cameras? Doorbells? Mini HomePods? There were rumors for YEARS of Apple diving into home automation - long before it was even a passing thought in the minds of Google/Amazon. That one in 2019 should have to try (unsuccessfully, mostly likely) to scrap together an effective (and cost-effective) third-party HomeKit-compatible system when Google and Amazon-compatible offerings are legion is downright embarrassing, and that's not even addressing the fact that Siri has fallen woefully behind the competition in voice assistance despite being first out of the gate by a mile. This is one of Tim Cook's greatest failures in my opinion. Utterly inexcusable. WAKE UP TIM & CO.!