thewhitefalcon

blastdoor said:

thewhitefalcon said:

blastdoor said:

durandal_1707 said:

blastdoor said:

Well, it's Apple's fault that they keep using Intel processors instead of something based on their wind-storm ARM cores. 

ARM still has not caught up to Intel in terms of performance, so claiming about the performance of Apple's Intel-based machines and wishing for ARM instead is an odd position to be taking.

I disagree. Apple's wind-storm cores demonstrate that Apple very likely is capable of designing a CPU that can meet or beat Intel in terms of performance. 

Not yet. If they're willing to dump all x86 stuff than sure, okay, but since that's unlikely they need ARM cores that can handle the heavy lifting of running Rosetta 2.0. In a few more generations they might be able to consider it. 

That being said I can almost guarantee they have ARMac prototypes in a lab in Cupertino.

http://thenextweb.com/apple/2015/06/17/apples-biggest-developer-news-at-wwdc-that-nobodys-talking-about-bitcode/

There will be very limited need for Resetta 2.0. 

This is not 2006, folks. 

And the whole Boot Camp thing is, what, ignorable? You also forget that there is an entire ecosystem of Mac apps that aren't in the Mac App Store because it's a disaster of Eddy Cue's making. 

blastdoor said:

durandal_1707 said:

blastdoor said:

Well, it's Apple's fault that they keep using Intel processors instead of something based on their wind-storm ARM cores. 

ARM still has not caught up to Intel in terms of performance, so claiming about the performance of Apple's Intel-based machines and wishing for ARM instead is an odd position to be taking.

I disagree. Apple's wind-storm cores demonstrate that Apple very likely is capable of designing a CPU that can meet or beat Intel in terms of performance. 

Not yet. If they're willing to dump all x86 stuff than sure, okay, but since that's unlikely they need ARM cores that can handle the heavy lifting of running Rosetta 2.0. In a few more generations they might be able to consider it. 

That being said I can almost guarantee they have ARMac prototypes in a lab in Cupertino.

elijahg said:

AppleInsider said:

The 6360U launched in the third quarter of 2015

So Apple's using CPUs that're a year behind. Will they still be using the same CPUs in 500 days? Why didn't they update the MacBooks in Q4 2015 with Skylake? If they'd updated in Q4 2015 they could have waited until Q1 2017 for Kaby Lake. They're completely out of sync with Intel's release cycles now, couldn't really have released the 2016 MBPs at a worse time. Sadly, it seems to me like they're trying to let the Mac die.

Just because one Skylake chip launched does not mean the entire family launched. The better CPU's, which Apple picks, come later, and Intel has had (and probably still continues to have) yield issues at 14nm. The Kaby Lake chips they need aren't out yet either. 

wood1208 said:

Intel's Skylake processor is 2015 story. Kaby lake is 2016. Intel will release ICE lake 10nm end of 2017. If I was Apple, I would skip Kaby lake and pick up ICE lake in 2017 for Spring 2018 release of Macbook pro that Apple can design without any compromise.

LOL no. Intel isn't even releasing high-end (higher than 15W) Cannonlake now in 2018. They're doing a 4th CPU on 14nm, Coffee Lake. Ice Lake coming before 2019 would be a shocker.

eyekey said:

Whenever I have to reboot and my girlfriend is already sleeping, the chime wakes her up. So I leave the room for rebooting. I do not give one f that the sound is gone. And the "Happy Face"? Come on. It is super ugly.

Most people seem to be fine with the boot noise being gone. But slandering the Happy Mac is not cool. 

ericthehalfbee said:

Guess I'll be spending $3,000 on a loaded Surface Book instead.

Oh wait, it only has 16GB RAM as well. Why isn't anyone complaining about Microsoft skimping on RAM? Or releasing an "updated" Surface Book with hardly any changes from last years version?

Because no one is buying them, ultimately.