thewhitefalcon

walter77 said:

Price increase is a killer... big mistake!

Need I remind you what Apple laptops used to cost?

From their video today:

PowerBook 170: $4600
PowerBook 540c: $4840
PowerBook G3 Wallstreet (250 14.1"): $4399
iBook (FireWire): $1499
Titanium PowerBook G4: $2499
MacBook: $1099
MacBook Air: $1799
MacBook Pro Retina: $2199.

None of those are adjusted for inflation, so charging $1799 and $2399 for significantly better laptops in 2016 is reasonable, and on average they're still cheaper than the historical trend.

sedicivalvole said:

hmlongco said:

ktappe said:

Maybe they should take a brief look at price. Even I, a 30-year Apple vet, am starting to question why Apple keeps delivering 2 year old hardware specs at 2 years from now prices.

The MBP is using Skylake quad core processors since Kaby Lake is only shipping in dual core configurations. It may be 2017 before Intel ships quad-core versions of KL. You can only ship the parts that are available.

But unfortunately. I cannot see them updating these machines quickly with the new chips. Can you? Skylake will sit in the machines for far longer than it should while the price stays high ala the Mac Pro. 

Apple will just soak the profit up as the chip prices fall. 

I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it 

People need to realize that Intel's newer CPU's are the barest improvements. Kaby Lake is just a slight tweak to Skylake, nothing more. The days of legitimate CPU improvements from Intel are over.

Intel has already announced that high end Cannonlake will be delayed even further, and Coffee Lake will be produced to fill in the gap, meaning they'll have had four CPU's on the 14nm process. (Broadwell/Skylake/Kaby Lake/Coffee Lake).

sockrolid said:

teejay2012 said:

Nice but where is my new Mac Pro?

And where is my new 21.5" iMac?

If Apple is fully committed to Touch Bar on all Macs, they'll need to redesign the Magic Keyboard.
There is a chance that re-engineering the presumed Magic Keyboard with Touch Bar might cause a delay.
But really, Apple.  Ship us some new desktops.

The 21.5" iMac is on Broadwell. Skylake's barely become available for it and Kaby Lake is a year away. Stop asking for a stupid update.

And the 27" is already on Skylake.

ubergeek said:

lets try again.

very disappointed.

according to the intel web site.  graphics 550 is associated with i7  skylake.  the new chip now rolling out kaby lake,  uses the 600 series of graphics.

also i use my laptop on my desk, with external keyboard and mouse.  no external keyboard with touch id. no 802.11ac wave 2

i can deal with only usb-c (in general).

in essence this laptop is one year beyond the technology curve.

Kaby Lake isn't shipping in any volume, especially not the chips Apple needs. Blame Intel, not Apple. It's also a very small upgrade.

FREE MACS FOR EVERYONE! /s