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hypwitit said:

Oh, look, your ultra light $2500 new MacBook Pro only needs 2 pounds and $400 worth of accessories to make it useful. Thanks, Apple, you're amazing!

manfrommars said:

I was there when apple dropped SuperDrive, FireWire, Ethernet and more from the mbp. The sun came up the next day. And I was completely content adjusting to 'moving forward' after a short adjustment. That's what Apple does. They move things forward because nobody else will. 

It's a laptop that's way too big and expensive for the email / web browser market, but way too limited for professionals.  Of course the sun comes up tomorrow, and this laptop still sucks.

dysamoria said:

$300 extra expense for ports that used to be included in the price of the laptop. Nice.

digitol said:

Are you serious!? Defending this sad release with, quotes like we left the headphone jack for pro users. Phill Schiller, go fuck yourself. I can't believe I'm saying that. I used to look up to you man. Sad. 

farmboy said:

AppleZulu said:

As for MS showing the touchscreen of a Surface and saying "you can't do that on a mac," that's just a droll marketing diversion. Macs don't have touchscreens, and Schiller has articulated why. Note that the MS Surface ads don't say, "you can't do that on an iPad." The hardware on a notebook just isn't conducive to touchscreen use. Especially if the notebook is lightweight, tapping on the screen is going to make the thing bounce around or even tip backward. Imagine the uproar on the message-boards over 'tip-gate.' Add to that the familiar macOS menu-driven interface also not being conducive to the touch experience. They'd have to do away with that interface, which -once again- would cause a furor. You think people are torqued over the move to USB-C ports on MBP (and no headphone jack on the iPhone), well if macOS just became iOS on steroids, there would be outrage (outrage, I tell you!) over turning MBP into an iPad with a non-detachable keyboard. Of course, they could try to incorporate both interfaces and be all things to all people, but Microsoft would probably accuse Apple of stealing Windows 8 out of a dumpster in Redmond.

No, Apple has been quite successful without trying to capture the majority of the market. With each new announcement, update, or product release, it seems the message boards fill up with commentary that (in some cases intentionally, I'm convinced) misses the point of what's made Apple, well, Apple. They have no intention of producing devices that meet every price point and are customizable to be everything to everyone. Microsoft, Google, Samsung and others all pursue that model, and collectively, they do make up the majority of the market. Their products fail to be conclusively superior (and are less profitable), however, and in lots of cases end up being quite inferior and less reliable. In individual cases, of course, some people can get exactly what they want from one of those manufacturers, but for many, that supposedly perfect match really just ends up being a bundle of customized compromises.

For those who want to lament the passing of Apple, I'd suggest keeping your powder dry. If Apple ever starts chasing down every option and every last bell-and-whistle, that's when you'll be able to see the whites of their eyes.

Let's be clear: Schiller has sort of articulated that to techies. The rest of the world sees it differently. No is saying Apple has to have the majority market share. What we all want is for Apple to lead again. We're talking here about computers, not phones/ipads (yes, those are computers as well, we know...). The Mac Pro was half the computer the industry wanted, and they have left that dangling. The new macbooks are mostly evolutionary, not revolutionary (and I'm impressed with the Touch Bar). And the iMacs have stagnated.